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Art3mlsArt3mls 5 replies2 postsRegistered User New Member
I sorta dug myself into a hole here. i have a decent sat score of 1520 but a horrible unweighted gpa of 3.5. I think my weighted gpa is around 3.8 but I'm not too sure since I'm getting conflicting answers on whether honors are on a 5.0 scale or 4.5 scale. I've been looking at some college match websites but I don't think they are too accurate. For example, Naviance says that UChicago is a match for me since my sat score fits within its last year freshman admittance profile. Since I've heard that GPA is way more important than SAT scores. I'm wondering which colleges should be my match and safeties? California schools are appreciated but out of states shouldn't be a problem.
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  • blossomblossom 9675 replies9 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    We need more information.

    What are your financial constraints, how do your parents feel about you leaving California, given so many fine in-state options, what do you want to study, do you want urban/rural, etc.

    And what does your guidance counselor say about your match schools?
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  • Art3mlsArt3mls 5 replies2 postsRegistered User New Member
    Hi, thanks for the quick reply. There are not many financial constraints and my parents prefer me to stay in california but don't really care overall. I prefer to study EECS or maybe something physics based. Urban, rural doesn't really affect me. As for my counselor, my current match schools are:
    UIUC - public
    U Washington
    U Minnesota
    Virginia Tech
    Florida Institute of Technology
    Lehigh University
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    Stevens Institute of Technology

    Problem is I don't know how my low GPA will affect my chances of going into these schools.
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  • joecollege44joecollege44 49 replies3 postsRegistered User Junior Member
    those are good choices and matches for you. but with that SAT, I still think it's ok to reach for a couple. why not take a chance and apply to UCLA or Claremont McKenna?Some other good schools for engineering that are underrated are CAse Western and Rochester- they aen't much like California but neither are UW or RPI.
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  • coolguy40coolguy40 1974 replies2 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    I agree, you have nothing to lose by applying to UCLA or Berkeley. In fact, you're a great candidate for most UC schools. I'd say, apply to all of them. They would be the best value, since the schools are in-state. If you want to go out of state, your stats would earn you an out of state tuition waiver at Univ of AZ and AZ State. You'd get a tuition scholarship at University of Alabama. You have more than plenty of options with your grades.
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  • GumbymomGumbymom 27414 replies142 postsForum Champion UC Forum Champion
    Calculate your UC GPA’s and post the Unweighted, Capped Weighted and Fully Weighted. This will give you a better idea of how your compare and the UC’s tend to be more GPA focused vs. test focused.

    https://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/

    For EECS, you will need top grades/test scores or basically the whole package needs to be competitive for UCB/UCLA. No harm in applying but make sure you have a couple of CA schools as Safeties.

    2018 Freshman admit rates for UC GPA of 3.80-4.19 capped weighted and not major specific:
    UCB: 10%
    UCLA: 9%
    UCSD: 34%
    UCSB: 38%
    UCD: 41%
    UCI: 38%
    UCSC: 70%
    UCR: 84%
    UCM: 95%

    2019 UC capped weighted GPA averages:
    UCB: 4.23
    UCLA: 4.25
    UCSD: 4.23
    UCSB: 4.16
    UCI: 4.13
    UCD: 4.13
    UCSC: 3.96
    UCR: 3.90
    UCM: 3.73

    2019 Data:
    25th - 75th percentiles for SAT totals:
    UCB: 1340-1540
    UCLA: 1330-1550
    UCSD: 1300-1520
    UCSB: 1280-1520
    UCD: 1230-1490
    UCI: 1250-1510
    UCSC: 1200-1450
    UCR: 1130-1400
    UCM: 1020-1290
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  • Art3mlsArt3mls 5 replies2 postsRegistered User New Member
    Yea I will add my UC gpas once school starts. Right now I don't have access to my school transcripts and I already forgot what grades I got sophomore year. Thanks to all the people replying. As of right now I want to study either computer science or computer engineering. Thanks to the people suggesting I try UC Berkeley and LA, and while I do plan on applying, I don't think my chances of getting into those 2 schools to be high. What schools should be considered a safety with a major of Computer Science and my gpa and test scores? Thanks!
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41519 replies447 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    You're right. Since UC's weigh GPA more than test scores and since the majors you're interested in are the most competitive at all universities, your odds of admission are not 10% (as the "odds of admission with that GPA" might let one think) but close to zero (since those majors are much more competitive than "average"). Definitely apply to UCSC since they're excellent for your chosen major(s).
    Look into SJSU and/or CPP if you want to have a local safety, they strictly use a GPAxSAT score formula and you'd meet the score they want for your majors.
    In addition, regardless of test score, no university with a sub 25% acceptance rate is a "match" for anyone. It means UIUC and UWashington should be treated as reaches for these majors, not as matches, as would Lehigh in general. [look at the results' threads from this year].
    Run the NPC and request info from Case Western Reserve (weighs test scores more), UMass Amherst, UIowa (you should have automatic admissions based on stats and a high likelihood of Honors College - would make an excellent safety), WPI, the Raikes School at UNebraska, plus some CA universities such as Santa Clara University (if they know your school and its rigor, the 3.5 will be appreciated within its proper context), Chapman for a possible safety?
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  • coolguy40coolguy40 1974 replies2 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    To answer your last question, if you're looking at CS, pretty much any school will do if you're looking for a safety. Be careful with CS programs at competitive schools because they often make popular majors extremely difficult to get into. You never want a school to tell you what to major in.

    Being a tech professional myself, I always advise kids to go somewhere non-prestigious, preferably in a city university, because that's where students can find internships and job opportunities. ASU and U of AZ might be a good place, because you'd be very competitive for jobs in the Phoenix market. California is a lot different. There's a lot of fierce competition for relatively few entry level jobs there and housing is cost prohibitive. Be prepared to apply to jobs out of state.

    Out of state, UT-Dallas, UT-Arlington, and University of Houston are attached to strong markets.
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  • mardongmardong 117 replies5 postsRegistered User Junior Member
    I would not consider WPI a safety at all. Last year, average GPA for class of 2022 was 3.89. This year, average GPA for class of 2023 is 3.9. Their admission stats have been going up year over year. CS and EE are some of the most seeded majors. It could be considered a target, maybe. But not a safety.
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 3672 replies16 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    CalPoly SlO is right in your backyard. It will meet your requirements. Check it out.
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 3672 replies16 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    Don't think UIUC uses weighted GPA. https://admissions.illinois.edu/Apply/Freshman/profile
    Your GPA for engineering is a bit low so I wouldn't consider this a match BUT look at your schools Naviance and /or History with the college. Some schools are feeders or just have a better history with certain colleges.
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  • GumbymomGumbymom 27414 replies142 postsForum Champion UC Forum Champion
    edited August 15
    SLO has around a 5.5% acceptance rate for CS so not a Match school even being in-state. SLO uses 9-11th grades vs. UC’s which use 10-11th grades in their GPA calculation and admit by MCA points.

    Here is the MCA point calculator and you want a minimum 4700+ MCA points if you want to be any way competitive.
    https://mca.netlify.com/
    edited August 15
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  • Art3mlsArt3mls 5 replies2 postsRegistered User New Member
    edited August 15
    Thanks for all the replies. The school I go to is Lynbrook High; I don't know if colleges will know if this school is rigorous or not. Thanks for all the replies but I've searched them up but I don't think they fit as safety schools. UT Austin's, UIUC, and even SLO seem really hard to get in as a CS major.
    edited August 15
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 3672 replies16 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    When you apply to colleges they have someone that is specific to your high-school or region that will know all about your school. Your school also sends them a school profile (ask for it), to the colleges. It lists specific stats like avg GPA, amount of AP courses offered and a general overview of your specific school.
    https://lhs.fuhsd.org/about-us/accountability/school-profile
    Here you go. So you in theory are compared to your own school. Something like 68% of your school gets a 3. 5-4.0 GPA. (other fun facts on there).
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  • Art3mlsArt3mls 5 replies2 postsRegistered User New Member
    @Knowsstuff wow thanks! been using that website for 4 years and yet I have never seen that page before
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