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Advice please!

EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
Hi.
I am a rising senior and I'm unsure of where I want to apply. I'm from Florida and I have good stats, I just don't know which schools I would be able to get into. I want to go out of state, preferably up north (Boston maybe). Also, I have looked at a few schools in North Carolina as well as Dartmouth, but I know that one would be a big reach. I already know I will be applying to UF and FSU. Any other recommendations?
Stats:
Class Rank: 39/902 - top 5%
SAT: 1480 but I'm taking it again so hopefully in the 1500 range
GPA: 3.84 unweighted and 5.23 weighted
Over 100 service hours. I have worked a total of two jobs throughout my high school career, one I am currently still employed at. I started a club that helps students at our school find jobs, and I am in National honor society. I am also in a couple clubs, one where we went on a mission trip to Puerto Rico. I have a pretty strong essay as well and participated in other extracurriculars here and there. I also take dual enrollment classes at the local college and will have a total of 15 AP credits at the end of my senior year. In florida, we also have this thing called an AICE Diploma and AICE classes, which are weighted higher than honors classes. I have my diploma and have taken 9 of those classes too.
Also, I tutored students throughout high school in SAT and other subjects when they needed.

Thanks for any help!
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  • DadTwoGirlsDadTwoGirls 6937 replies2 threads Senior Member
    What is your budget?

    Have you run the NPC on any out of state or private universities?
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  • EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
    Financial considerations do matter, but my counselor told me to find a list first, then worry about that. I don't think I would qualify for financial aid, and I don't want to go into more than 30k debt at the end of 4 years. I was hoping on using scholarships to help a little as well. Again, a lot of this is very loose - sorry.
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  • DadTwoGirlsDadTwoGirls 6937 replies2 threads Senior Member
    The reason that I ask about budget is partly that you have very good public universities in Florida, and partly that there are a huge number of universities for you to consider if you were okay with paying somewhat more than $300,000 over four years. You could probably get merit aid at some universities up here (UVM and U.Maine come to mind) that might get the price quite a bit lower than that.

    I agree that you are best off avoiding debt. I have one daughter who graduated a couple of years ago with no debt, and is currently very glad that she has no debt -- it has opened up opportunities that would otherwise not pay well enough but that are great stepping stones for her.

    What you want in a university is also very important. Again, there are a huge number of schools to choose from given your very good stats.
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  • merc81merc81 12190 replies207 threads Senior Member
    It would help your thread if you stated you academic interests, even if tentative.

    Regarding expenses, schools such as Dartmouth may be worth their cost, so it may make sense that you are considering them: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliesportelli/2017/04/26/10-expensive-colleges-worth-every-penny-2017/.
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  • EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
    I haven't decided my major yet, but I want to study something under the liberal arts category. Maybe political science or law, but I am unsure still.
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  • merc81merc81 12190 replies207 threads Senior Member
    edited September 10
    As suggestions for schools to research, look into Amherst, Bates, Bowdoin, Hamilton, Connecticut College, Vassar, Kenyon and Davidson.
    edited September 10
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  • EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
    Thank you!
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  • merc81merc81 12190 replies207 threads Senior Member
    As you do begin to consider costs, this resource can be especially convenient: https://myintuition.org/.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 85070 replies758 threads Senior Member
    edited September 11
    EJ222999 wrote: »
    Financial considerations do matter, but my counselor told me to find a list first, then worry about that. I don't think I would qualify for financial aid, and I don't want to go into more than 30k debt at the end of 4 years. I was hoping on using scholarships to help a little as well. Again, a lot of this is very loose - sorry.

    With your parents, run the net price calculator on the web site of each college you are considering to see if it is likely to be affordable.

    If it is not affordable based on need-based financial aid or scholarships that are assured for the stats that you have (i.e. not competitive), then move the college into the "reach" category because competitive scholarships are probably reaches. (Some colleges offer no merit scholarships, so they would be "out of reach" if they are not affordable on need-based financial aid.)
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  • chmcnmchmcnm 925 replies9 threads Member
    Consider cost first, then build a list.

    How would you feel if you found a school that is perfect. You love everything about it. You apply and are accepted. You ask your parents to send in the deposit. You're all set. Their reply is "we can't afford to send you there". I don't think that would go well.

    If you won't get financial aid and you need a scholarship to attend, it's a reach school no matter what.
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  • EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
    I know, I agree. I just don’t know at what schools I would qualify for enough merit aid to the point where I could go out of state.
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  • Erin's DadErin's Dad 34247 replies5132 threads Super Moderator
    That is why you run the Net Price Calculator on each school's web site. Something to be aware of is that Dartmouth does not offer merit aid.
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  • chmcnmchmcnm 925 replies9 threads Member
    edited September 17
    Some schools list merit on their website and/or in the NPC. Enter your financial info, GPA, and test scores and it lists scholarships and COA. These schools are great if you're merit shopping. WVU has a chart. I'm sure some of the other schools from Alabama, Arizona, etc have similar. Search the school's website or use Google.

    https://admissions.wvu.edu/cost-and-aid/scholarship-chart

    Other schools offer merit but it's competitive and holistic. You might get nothing, something or a full-ride (rare) but there's no set formula. Any school like this is a reach unless you're full-pay. For S20 these were most of his schools after applying to 2-3 safeties. It was wide mix of results from deferral to two very nice offers from private schools.

    Other schools only give FA based on need like the Ivies. No merit. If you need merit to attend don't bother with these.

    You and your parents should also fill-out FAFSA to get your EFC to get an exact idea of what you might be expected to pay. If you're not sure about a school just ask the CC community.

    You're lucky to live in Florida. Great schools that are very cheap. I saw UF moved up in the rankings. Being able to graduate debt free would be awesome, especially if you're considering poly sci or law school. Good luck.
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  • EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
    I know that ivy schools don't give merit aid. I also plan on filling out FAFSA when it is released on 10/1. I've been running Net Price Calculators for a few schools as well.

    I know that UF/FSU/UCF are all great schools, and I am applying to all of them. I just wanted to add a couple more colleges to my list as I am also interested in going out of state. It's just a matter of finding those schools in my price range as well as deciding which are best for me.
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  • happymomof1happymomof1 31021 replies199 threads Senior Member
    What have your parents (or whoever it is who is helping you pay for your education) told you that your budget is? If you can give us that figure, we might have better ideas for you.
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  • rickle1rickle1 2777 replies23 threads Senior Member
    You have your safeties in state (certainly you'll be admitted to at least one and likely all three). From there I would build two lists based on your interests (fit). One of them would be OOS schools you would likely receive merit aid to lower overall cost. You can google schools that give merit aid to start looking. And once that's done, no harm in going scholarship hunting at a higher tier with the understanding that scholarships are very competitive and that you can't attend without . I would probably limit that list to five schools.
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  • austinmshauriaustinmshauri 10215 replies394 threads Senior Member
    Financial considerations do matter, but my counselor told me to find a list first, then worry about that.

    Has your counselor ever bought a car or a house? Do you think they visited luxury car dealerships or asked their real estate agent to show them expensive houses with zero thought about their budget? That's not how people do business.

    If you're happy to attend college in FL then take your counselor's advice and ignore costs. If you'd like affordable options you should ask your parents what your budget is.
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  • EJ222999EJ222999 10 replies3 threads New Member
    Trust me, the last thing I want to do is apply to a bunch of colleges, get in, and then realize I'm unable to afford them. That would be miserable.

    I made another thread asking for recommendations for schools that give good merit aid to out of state students. I am already applying to the FL schools, but I still want to apply to some places out of state.
    If you're happy to attend college in FL then take your counselor's advice and ignore costs. If you'd like affordable options you should ask your parents what your budget is.

    I know my budget, but when I ran the NPC for multiple schools it was higher than my EFC will be. I'm applying to a couple selective schools, but I am trying to find more affordable options that are also out of state.


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