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acceptance rates at some top universities: 1964 versus 2006

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Replies to: acceptance rates at some top universities: 1964 versus 2006

  • misterme2009misterme2009 Registered User Posts: 889 Member
    I looked it up - Rice first charged tuition in 1965. So the data in this thread shows the last year before tuition started.
  • barronsbarrons Registered User Posts: 24,581 Senior Member
    I don't know what planet you come from RGS but most kids I knew went to college back then if they could just like today--there was a little incentive called Vietnam and the Draft just in case you were not yet positive you wanted to go to college.
  • confused_studentconfused_student Registered User Posts: 551 Member
    People need to consider that some of these schools WERE self selective in the applicant pool, and now they aren't, while others WEREN'T self selective in the applicant pool, and now they are. WPI and Rutgers are probably now a lot more self selective than before.
  • the_prestigethe_prestige Registered User Posts: 2,185 Senior Member
    People need to consider that some of these schools WERE self selective in the applicant pool, and now they aren't, while others WEREN'T self selective in the applicant pool, and now they are.

    And some were self selective and still are... U Chicago, for instance (50, 40).
  • barronsbarrons Registered User Posts: 24,581 Senior Member
    Rutgers was just Rutgers College--male only back then. Now it inludes all the various schools in NB. From maybe 5000 to 40,000
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Registered User Posts: 6,523 Senior Member
    from another post:
    Here is a comparison of SAT scores 1964 versus 2006. The 1964 scores were recentered using a conversion table on the web. The year 1964 was before baby boomers entered college (1963 data). Two years later, in the 1966 Barrons Profiles of American Colleges, after the first freshmen class of baby boomers, the SATs had already jumped about 50 points. These are the only schools for which I had good data.


    university, 2006 SAT midpoint, 1964 recentered SAT midpoint, change

    University of Southern California 1355 1140 215
    Washington University in St Louis 1440 1240 200
    Wake Forest University 1325 1150 175
    Clemson University 1205 1030 175
    Tulane University of Louisiana 1350 1190 160
    University of Pennsylvania 1430 1280 150
    Georgetown University 1390 1240 150
    University of Notre Dame 1385 1240 145
    Carnegie Mellon University 1380 1240 140
    Emory University 1380 1240 140
    Duke University 1430 1300 130
    Stanford University 1455 1350 105
    University of Virginia-Main Campus 1325 1220 105
    Vanderbilt University 1370 1270 100
    George Washington University 1280 1180 100
    Southern Methodist University 1230 1130 100
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 1320 1230 90
    Princeton University 1480 1400 80
    Dartmouth College 1450 1370 80
    University of Chicago 1440 1360 80
    Boston University 1300 1220 80
    Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 1200 1120 80
    Cornell University 1385 1310 75
    Yale University 1480 1410 70
    University of Connecticut 1185 1120 65
    Syracuse University 1215 1160 55
    University of Delaware 1205 1150 55
    Boston College 1335 1300 35
    Columbia University in the City of New York 1440 1410 30
    Case Western Reserve University 1340 1310 30
    Johns Hopkins University 1385 1360 25
    University of Denver 1165 1140 25
    Worcester Polytechnic Institute 1280 1260 20
    University of Rochester 1320 1310 10
    Lehigh University 1320 1310 10
    Rice University 1435 1430 5
    California Institute of Technology 1510 1510 0
    Clark University 1205 1220 -15
    Brandeis University 1350 1370 -20
    SUNY at Binghamton 1265 1300 -35
    Purdue University-Main Campus 1145 1180 -35
    Michigan State University 1140 1230 -90
  • drusbadrusba Registered User Posts: 9,137 Senior Member
    Rice's 1964 figures are even somewhat more interesting than the fact it did not charge tuition. Before entry class of 1965, Rice's charter required tuition free for Texas residents, and non-whites could not be admitted. The trustees of Rice who wanted to get rid of both rules initiated a lawsuit in late 1963 to change those rules and the ruling doing so came in 1964. Besides no tution, another factor that kept the admission rate low for entry in 1964 is that a number of non-whites applied in 1963 for 1964 admission to help provide evience for the lawsuit and they were, of course, rejected.

    Also, the comment above that only the super brains or rich people went to college in 1964 is simply not true. Most that applied to college were neither. The percentage of high school students that applied to college was lower than today but college was still considered a way to a better life (and a prime way to avoid the draft). Moreover, cost was fairly reasonable at many colleges, e.g., at many state universities, the total for tuition and room & board for a year was in the $800 to $1500 range.
  • thethoughtprocessthethoughtprocess Registered User Posts: 4,167 Senior Member
    collegehelp, how do you figure out the scores, by taking the colleboard.com percentiles and averaging them?
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Registered User Posts: 6,523 Senior Member
    I figured out the midpoints for the 2006 SATs by adding the 25th and 75th percentiles from US News and then dividing by two. I did this separately for the math and verbal, then added the math and verbal midpoints to get the midpoint for the total SAT. I also had to do this for a few of the 1964 SAT scores but most of the 1964 data was already reported as average SAT scores, not percentile ranges.
  • gomestargomestar Registered User Posts: 4,699 Senior Member
    collegehelp - lets get some really eye opening data and compare tuition rates of the 60's and today. Eek!
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Registered User Posts: 6,523 Senior Member
    ok gomestar, here is the tuition and room and board from 1964.

    be prepared for a shock

    public tuitions are for out-of-state

    college, state, 1964 tuition, 1964 room and board

    American University DC 1130 850
    Auburn University Main Campus AL 525 570
    Baylor University TX 640 600
    Boston College MA 1200 950
    Boston University MA 1175 955
    Brandeis University MA 1530 1000
    Brigham Young University UT 280 615
    Brown University RI 1600 900
    California Institute of Technology CA 1600 946
    Carnegie Mellon University PA 1450 900
    Case Western Reserve University OH 1436 900
    Clark University MA 1500 800
    Clemson University SC 706 580
    College of William and Mary VA 758 600
    Columbia University in the City of New York NY 1575 1000
    Cornell University NY 1600 1075
    Dartmouth College NH 1550 885
    Duke University NC 1000 750
    Emory University GA 1095 810
    Fordham University NY 1250 900
    George Washington University DC 1030 970
    Georgetown University DC 1200 1100
    Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus GA 700 900
    Harvard University MA 1520 1095
    Indiana University-Bloomington IN 570 800
    Iowa State University IA 252 654
    Johns Hopkins University MD 1600 850
    Lehigh University PA 1400 900
    Marquette University WI 990 800
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology MA 1815 980
    Miami University-Oxford OH 711 775
    Michigan State University MI 870 786
    New York University NY 1540 1065
    Northwestern University IL 1260 996
    Ohio State University-Main Campus OH 780 825
    Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus PA 1050 800
    Pepperdine University CA 916 791
    Princeton University NJ 1600 960
    Purdue University-Main Campus IN 750 860
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute NY 1665 825
    Rice University TX 0 1000
    Rutgers University-New Brunswick/Piscataway NJ 587 800
    Saint Louis University-Main Campus MO 970 850
    Southern Methodist University TX 890 750
    Stanford University CA 1410 1020
    Stevens Institute of Technology NJ 1600 830
    SUNY at Binghamton NY 400 765
    Syracuse University NY 1470 927
    Texas A & M University TX
    The University of Tennessee TN 525 775
    The University of Texas at Austin TX 448 720
    Tufts University MA 1500 875
    Tulane University of Louisiana LA 1400 900
    University of California-Berkeley CA 275 840
    University of California-Davis CA 670 840
    University of California-Irvine CA
    University of California-Los Angeles CA 680 800
    University of California-Riverside CA 780 840
    University of California-San Diego CA
    University of California-Santa Barbara CA 742 840
    University of California-Santa Cruz CA
    University of Chicago IL 1455 920
    University of Colorado at Boulder CO 900 750
    University of Connecticut CT 560 800
    University of Delaware DE 650 660
    University of Denver CO 910 800
    University of Florida FL 576 700
    University of Georgia GA 600 600
    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign IL 620 750
    University of Iowa IA 620 880
    University of Maryland-College Park MD 656 750
    University of Miami FL 1072 1050
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor MI 750 815
    University of Minnesota-Twin Cities MN 720 750
    University of Missouri-Columbia MO 515 700
    University of North Carolina System Office NC 704 675
    University of Notre Dame IN 1300 850
    University of Pennsylvania PA 1630 100
    University of Pittsburgh-Main Campus PA 1450 900
    University of Rochester NY 1600 900
    University of Southern California CA 1224 870
    University of Virginia-Main Campus VA 750 1000
    University of Washington-Seattle Campus WA 600 700
    University of Wisconsin-Madison WI 750 850
    Vanderbilt University TN 1000 850
    Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University VA 660 516
    Wake Forest University NC 706 750
    Washington University in St Louis MO 1350 1000
    Worcester Polytechnic Institute MA 1380 800
    Yale University CT 1660 900
    Yeshiva University MA 1275 1120
  • gomestargomestar Registered User Posts: 4,699 Senior Member
    crap, i was really only kidding.


    sigh, I just cut a $16,000 check for the fall semester at Cornell - and i'm in one of the statutory schools so it's cheaper for me.
  • NoFXNoFX Registered User Posts: 3,784 Senior Member
    :eek: MIT.. so expensive :eek:
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