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Which Ivy is best for interest in..

washdcmomwashdcmom Registered User Posts: 344 Member
pediatrics (oncology)?
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Replies to: Which Ivy is best for interest in..

  • norcalguynorcalguy Registered User Posts: 7,548 Senior Member
    For college? Doesn't matter.

    For med school? Doesn't matter.

    For residency? CHOP (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia) which is an affiliate of Penn Med
  • washdcmomwashdcmom Registered User Posts: 344 Member
    thanks norcalguy
  • hmom5hmom5 - Posts: 10,882 Senior Member
    Agree with norcalguy. The thing you do want to watch is grade deflation, which makes med school harder to get into. Cornell is the well know ivy for grade deflation and H and P have recently toughened grading standards.
  • ilovebagelsilovebagels Registered User Posts: 3,499 Senior Member
    Don't med schools (and for that matter, all grad schools) consider each schools' respective policies on grade inflation? It seems ludicrous that grad schools would think the same of a 3.9 from Cornell and a 3.9 from a la-la land of no academic requirements and unlimited Pass-fail like Brown...
  • norcalguynorcalguy Registered User Posts: 7,548 Senior Member
    Unless you're PLME, you can't take your premed prereq's pass/fail at Brown. To be perfectly honest, I'm not so sure that Cornell is less grade inflated than Brown. Cornell's average GPA is in the 3.4 range. I don't know what Brown's is but I doubt it's much higher. People make a big deal about grading differences b/w top schools with Cornell, JHU, UChicago, MIT on one side and Brown/Harvard/Yale on the other side. But, if you look at the actual stats for Cornell, MIT, etc. they are not grade deflated at all.
  • Sam LeeSam Lee Registered User Posts: 9,449 Senior Member
    I've said it many times and I am going to do this again:

    ALMOST ALL TOP SCHOOLS HAVE COMPARABLE GRADE INFLATION. This whole Cornell/Chicago on one side and Harvard/Stanford on the other is just BS. Median grade reports at Cornell have been available to the public for quite a while and there's no shortage of A/A- as the median. I am not sure why it's still "well known for grade deflation". Actually, those reports make me think they may even be on the generous side (even I said most schools' grading policy are comparable). http://registrar.sas.cornell.edu/Grades/MedianGradeSP08.pdf
  • hmom5hmom5 - Posts: 10,882 Senior Member
    I've been looking at resumes from all the top schools for decades. Unless I'm just getting the bottom of the Cornell pool for some reason, GPA's there look notably lower than other ivies. Harvard, which I know is in the process of changing this, on the other hand has few who do not graduate with high GPA's and honors.
  • norcalguynorcalguy Registered User Posts: 7,548 Senior Member
    I've been looking at resumes from all the top schools for decades.

    That's the problem. The median grade reports have only been around the last few years and have caused massive grade inflation now that Cornell students have the opportunity to pick and choose courses based on grading.

    Grade Inflation at Cornell

    Graduating with honors is a separate issue since, for many majors, Cornell requires research and a thesis in addition to a good GPA to graduate with honors (in contrast to a strictly-GPA based system like Harvard's). For example, I had a 3.94 GPA at Cornell but never considered graduating with honors since I'd have to spend a summer at Cornell doing full-time research, write a thesis, revise it 30 times, and defend it in front of a committee. It wasn't worth it to me.
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