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UIUC vs UMICH

emirandaemiranda Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
i got accepted into both schools college of engineering, and I am dying here trying to decide between both of them, i am OOS, PLZ help, thank you
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  • AeroEngineer3141AeroEngineer3141 Registered User Posts: 3,607 Senior Member
    From what I've heard, most people choose UMich over UIUC.

    All I can tell you is that UIUC has a much more rural feel than UMich. And by rural, I mean farm-like.
  • Hope2getriceHope2getrice Registered User Posts: 1,153 Senior Member
    depends on type of engineering, though I think most engineering would be UIUC>Umich.
    UMich excels in probably everything else, but for engineering, UIUC is hard to beat. +, the engineering quad is beautiful.
  • emirandaemiranda Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    mechanical, i'm from Puerto Rico, so im probably gonna freeze to death in both
  • KutlessRockKutlessRock Registered User Posts: 247 Junior Member
    U of M is highly known for its engineering. I mean, that's where all of the engineers that work of the Detroit motor companies usually come from. I am not familiar with UIUC's engineering program, but I think U of M is pretty hard to beat. On another note, the winters can be really annoying, but they aren't too bad when you get used to them. :)
  • Hope2getriceHope2getrice Registered User Posts: 1,153 Senior Member
    from USNews:
    Undergraduate engineering specialties:
    Mechanical
    (At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate)
    Methodology
    1 Massachusetts Inst. of Technology
    2 Stanford University (CA)
    3 University of California–Berkeley *
    4 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor *
    5 U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign *
    6 Georgia Institute of Technology *
    7 Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (IN)*
    8 Cornell University (NY)
    9 California Institute of Technology
    10 Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
    11 University of Texas–Austin *
    12 Pennsylvania State U.–University Park *
    13 Princeton University (NJ)
    14 Virginia Tech *
    15 Texas A&M Univ.–College Station *
    16 Univ. of Minnesota–Twin Cities *
    17 Northwestern University (IL)
    18 Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (NY)
    19 Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison *
    20 Johns Hopkins University (MD)
    21 Ohio State University–Columbus *
    22 Lehigh University (PA)
    22 Michigan Technological University *
    22 Univ. of California–San Diego *
    22 Univ. of California–Santa Barbara *


    basically, #4 and #5. both basically the same.

    Take a look at where you would fit better.
    Michigan is probably colder than IL, though IL is cold in itself as well.
    If you are doing out of state for both, why not just apply to a private engineering school like MIT or Stanford? Assuming you are Puerto Rican, you would get a boost from the diversity factor. Berkeley is pretty good too, if you don't want coldness lol. Same with Georgia Tech, Caltech, and Carnegie Mellon.

    Anyways, between these two schools for your intended major, you can't go wrong!
  • emirandaemiranda Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    thanks a lot
  • AlexandreAlexandre Registered User Posts: 24,523 Senior Member
    Emiranda, from an academic point of view, you cannot go wrong. I recommend you go with go with overall quality (slight edge goes to Michigan) and campus/town location, culture and environment (again, the edge goes to Michigan). But you really should visit those two schools to get the whole picture.

    Some posters have said that Ann Arbor is colder than Urbana. That is not entirely true. The two cities have similar climates. According to the annual averages, below are the monthly averages for the two cities (highs and lows in Fareinheit):

    NOVEMBER:
    Ann Arbor 47 - 32
    Urbana 50 - 33

    DECEMBER:
    Ann Arbor 35 - 22
    Urbana 37 - 22

    JANUARY:
    Ann Arbor 30 - 17
    Urbana 32 - 16

    FEBRUARY:
    Ann Arbor 34 - 19
    Urbana 38 - 21

    MARCH:
    Ann Arbor 45 - 27
    Urbana 49 - 30

    Hope2fetrice, UIUC is not greater than Michigan in Engineering. In most Engineering disciplines, Michigan and UIUC are ranked within 2-3 spots of each other, with Michigan having the slight edge in Aerospace Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, Engineering Physics, Industrial Engineering, Nuclear Engineering and the OP's intended concentration, Mechanical Engineering. UIUC has a slight edge in the rankings in Civil Engineering, Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Environmental Engineering and Materials Engineering. Overall, they are almostalways ranked within 2-3 spots of each other. Those kinds of differences are negligible. Furthermore, I am fairly confident that the OP has already applied to university and is now narrowing her choices, so applying to MIT, Cal or other programs is probably too late, if she hasn't already done so.

    By the way Hope2getrice, I am not sure where you got your rankings from. According to my 2009 issue, Michigan is #2 in Mechanical and UIUC is #6. Obviously, there is no difference between #2 and #6, but accuracy is always appreciated. Below are the undergraduate rankings for allEngineering disciplines, including Mechanical Engineering:

    2009 USNWR Undergraduate Rankings:

    ENGINEERING (OVERALL)
    1 Massachusetts Institute of Technolog 4.79/5.00
    2 Stanford University 4.65/5.00
    2 University of California-Berkeley 4.66/5.00
    4 California Institute of Technology 4.51/5.00
    4 Georgia Institute of Technology 4.51/5.00
    4 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 4.45/5.00
    7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.40/5.00
    8 Cornell University 4.28/5.00
    9 Carnegie Mellon University 4.19/5.00
    9 Purdue University-West Lafayette 4.19/5.00

    As can be seen, the gap in the overall Engineering ranking between Illinois and Michigan is tiny. It is 0.05/5.00 to be precise.

    AEROSPACE
    1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    2 Georgia Institute of Technology
    3 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    4 Purdue University-West Lafayette
    5 California Institute of Technology
    6 University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign
    7 Stanford University
    8 University of Texas-Austin
    9 University of Maryland-College Park
    10 Virginia Tech

    BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING
    1 Johns Hopkins University
    2 Duke University
    3 Georgia Institute of Technology
    4 University of California-San Diego
    5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    6 Case Western Reserve University
    7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    9 University of Pennsylvania
    9 Boston University
    10 Rice University
    22 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign

    BME is probably the only Engineering Discipline where one of the two schools in question (Michigan), has a noticeable,albeit insignificant, advantage over the other.

    CHEMICAL ENGINEERING
    1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    2 University of California-Berkeley
    3 University of Wisconsin-Madison
    4 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities
    5 Stanford University
    6 California Institute of Technology
    7 University of Texas-Austin
    8 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    9 University of Delaware
    10 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor

    CIVIL ENGINEERING
    1 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    2 University of California-Berkeley
    3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    4 University of Texas-Austin
    5 Georgia Institute of Technology
    6 Stanford University
    7 Purdue University-West Lafayette
    7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    9 Cornell University
    10 Texas A&M University-College Station

    COMPUTER ENGINEERING
    1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    2 Stanford University
    3 Carnegie Mellon University
    4 University of California-Berkeley
    5 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    6 Georgia Institute of Technology
    7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    8 California Institute of Technology
    8 Cornell University
    8 University of Texas-Austin

    ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING
    1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    2 Stanford University
    3 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    4 University of California-Berkeley
    5 Georgia Institute of Technology
    6 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    7 California Institute of Technology
    8 Cornell University Ithaca, NY
    9 Purdue University-West Lafayette
    10 Carnegie Mellon University

    ENGINEERING PHYSICS
    1 Cornell University
    2 University of California-Berkeley
    2 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    4 California Institute of Technology
    4 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    6 Pennsylvania State University-University Park

    ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING
    1 Stanford University
    2 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    3 University of California-Berkeley
    4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    5 Johns Hopkins University
    6 Georgia Institute of Technology
    7 University of Texas-Austin
    8 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    9 Cornell University
    10 Carnegie Mellon University

    INDUSTRIAL ENGINEERING
    1 Georgia Institute of Technology
    2 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    3 Purdue University-West Lafayette
    4 Pennsylvania State University-University Park
    5 University of California-Berkeley
    6 Stanford University
    6 Virginia Tech
    8 Texas A&M University-College Station
    9 Northwestern University
    10 University of Wisconsin-Madison
    11 University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign

    MATERIALS ENGINEERING
    1 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    2 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    3 University of California-Berkeley
    4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    Northwestern University
    6 Stanford University
    7 Cornell University
    8 University of Florida
    9 Georgia Institute of Technology
    10 Pennsylvania State University-University Park

    MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
    1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    2 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
    3 University of California-Berkeley
    4 Georgia Institute of Technology
    5 Stanford University
    6 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    7 Purdue University-West Lafayette
    8 Cornell University
    9 California Institute of Technology
    10 University of Texas-Austin

    NUCLEAR ENGINEERING (since the USNWR does not publish an undergraduate ranking, below is their graduate ranking)
    1 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.5/5.0
    2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.2/5.0
    2 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2/5.0
    4 Texas A&M University-College Station 3.9/5.0
    5 Pennsylvania State University-University Park 3.8/5.0
    5 University of California-Berkeley 3.8/5.0
    7 North Carolina State University 3.5/5.0
    8 Oregon State University 3.4/5.0
    9 Georgia Institute of Technology 3.3/5.0
    10 University of Florida 3.2/5.0
  • kb10kb10 Registered User Posts: 396 Member
    In terms of prestige, I think most would place the engineering schools in this fashion:

    Tier 1: MIT, Stanford, Caltech, UC-Berkeley
    Tier 2: UIUC, Cornell, Michigan, Carnegie Mellon, Georgia Tech

    so, so ur not losing out on anything by picking one over the other, I don't have the numbers, but I have a feeling most OOS students probably pick Michigan over UIUC consistently.
  • Hope2getriceHope2getrice Registered User Posts: 1,153 Senior Member
    ^^those are all pretty much Tier 1's though, when looking at the bigger picture.
  • AlexandreAlexandre Registered User Posts: 24,523 Senior Member
    That's right Hope2getric. If looking at the "big picture", all of the schools listed by kb would be considered "tier 1". They could be labled tier 1.1, tier 1.2 and I would even add a tier 1.3. I would break it down as follows:

    TIER 1.1:
    California Institute of Technology
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    Stanford University
    University of California-Berkeley

    TIER 1.2
    Carnegie Mellon University
    Cornell University
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    Purdue University-West Lafayette
    University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    University of Michigan-Ann arbor

    TIER 1.3
    Johns Hopkins University
    Northwestern University
    Pennsylvania State University
    Princeton University
    Rice University
    Texas A&M University-College Station
    University of California-San Diego
    University of Texas-Austin
    University of Wisconsin-Madison
    Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
  • G.P.BurdellG.P.Burdell User Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,294 Senior Member
    i got accepted into both schools college of engineering, and I am dying here trying to decide between both of them, i am OOS, PLZ help, thank you

    As pointed out above, both schools are similar from an academic standpoint, so you can't really go wrong.

    As for abstract issues (campus feel, quality of life, etc.), everyone will have a different opinion based on their definition of an ideal university. Your best bet is to visit both schools and see which one "feels right" to you.
  • G.P.BurdellG.P.Burdell User Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,294 Senior Member
    TIER 1.1:
    California Institute of Technology
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    Stanford University
    University of California-Berkeley

    TIER 1.2
    Carnegie Mellon University
    Cornell University
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    Purdue University-West Lafayette
    University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    University of Michigan-Ann arbor

    TIER 1.3
    Johns Hopkins University
    Northwestern University
    Pennsylvania State University
    Princeton University
    Rice University
    Texas A&M University-College Station
    University of California-San Diego
    University of Texas-Austin
    University of Wisconsin-Madison
    Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

    Pretty good characterization, but I would push Austin to 1.2 and Purdue to 1.3.... and Wisconsin and TAMU shouldn't be ranked together. Maybe if you do this..

    TIER 1.3
    Purdue University-West Lafayette
    University of Texas-Austin
    University of Wisconsin - Madison
    University of California - Los Angeles

    TIER 1.4
    Johns Hopkins University
    Northwestern University
    Pennsylvania State University
    Princeton University
    Rice University
    Texas A&M University-College Station
    University of California-San Diego
    Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
  • vociferousvociferous Registered User Posts: 1,410 Senior Member
    I would go with the best financial aid offer. They are both GREAT! What are the numbers?
  • rjkofnovirjkofnovi Registered User Posts: 10,313 Senior Member
    Also consider that Ann Arbor and UC are quite different in feel. Personally, I couldn't ever see myself living UC.
  • regzaregza Registered User Posts: 51 Junior Member
    UIUC and UMich are pretty much the same for Engineering.
    But UMich does stand higher for overall ranking by far. When it comes down to reputation,
    is the Engineering degree from UIUC respected as much as that of UMich, even if UMich has better reputation overall?
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