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  • vell28vell28 Registered User Posts: 99 Junior Member
    just a quick thing about the FA and admissions for any propsies who see this thread, don't be deterred from applying if you have need. from what others are saying, CC does seem to prefer students who can pay. however, this year CC became a QuestBridge school, which is an organization dedicated to helping low-income students go to top tier schools. this means CC is committed to admitting more low-income applicants. plus, if you do get in, the aid is amazing.
  • Flipflop43Flipflop43 Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    I think it is important to step back and realize something when we compare ACTs for these very selective schools. While a 32 is better than a 30, it is more important to demonstrate your love of your top school through essays, visits, doing the interviews, and engaging the counselors when you have thoughtful questions. I am not an admissions counselor but if I am looking at two similar apps, one a 32 who I don't really have a clear sense of, and the other a 30 that I can feel is passionate for the school, I am taking the 30 every time. If you look at the range of any of these elite schools, none of the middle 50 percent are 34-35. They all take their share of low 30s and even high 20s. I think we just get carried away with the stats and don't focus on the subjective enough.

    I am a dad with two sons who have been through the process and it seems that this has been the case. We have had happy days with big envelopes, we've had the buzz-kill dinners after getting the small envelopes. I am sorry to those of you who did have your hearts set on CC and it didn't work out, but don't lose perspective. If you we're a contender for CC, there are plenty of great schools that will love to have you and that. You will be just as happy if not happier. After all, YOU ARE GOING TO COLLEGE!!!!! Stay excited, it will probably be the best 4-6 years of your life. I'll get off my soapbox now!
  • clivingstonclivingston Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
    I was rejected with a 3.9 GPA, a 2230 SAT, an interview, a visit, and ridiculous amounts of interest. My essays were great and I'm captain of my team of which I've been a varsity member since my sophomore year and I started participating in 8th grade. I took 10 AP classes, am a member of NHS, and volunteered abroad and in my community. I worked my ass off and made it clear to CC that, after touring over fifteen schools, it was the only school I wanted to go to. I was qualified to attend CC. I would warn others with need to avoid CC because they didn't admit me based on need but they sure took my $70 application fee.
  • vell28vell28 Registered User Posts: 99 Junior Member
    clivingston, definitely don't say that...first off, you don't know that need is why they didn't accept you. and like i said, i got in (with way worse stats) and they gave me a full ride in grant money cause that's how poor i am. pretty much everyone who went to the MOH got in and most needed a substantial amount of need. maybe they figured you were over qualified and wouldn't go there? seriously, no one shouldn't apply because they have FA need.

    and about app fees, waivers are possible and really not that hard to get.
  • pancepartypanceparty Registered User Posts: 35 Junior Member
    2280 SAT, 4.4 gpa, waitlisted.
  • stewfoo412stewfoo412 Registered User Posts: 274 Junior Member
    Same boat as clivingston.. Sucks
  • 5boys5boys Registered User Posts: 1,775 Senior Member
    The problem is that if you are a non URM and have substantial need, you are at the bottom of the totem pole in admissions. The need aware schools want to save their aid money for students they want to attract.... and unfortunately they have their fair share of non URM applicants. It is the dirty little secret of college admissions.. but it is what it is. This shouldn't stop you from going to another school and having a GREAT experience. It isn't where you go to college, it's what you do when you get there. Go forth and thrive!!!
  • getmeouttahere13getmeouttahere13 Registered User Posts: 11 New Member
    @5boys Not true. I am Asian. Which is a minority but definitely not an URM. Statistically it's harder for Asians to get in than Caucasian students. But I got in ED to CC with a 27 and a 3.78 GPA and I have a EFC of zero. They admit students holistically and look at ALL aspects. If they did it solely on URM, Financial need, and then stats, I'd be out.
  • bhol34bhol34 Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    For some reason I still have not heard back yet. I was deferred after applying ED and thought that I should have heard by the 15th. In my base camp the admissions decision is still blank. Anyone know why this is???
  • snoworange22snoworange22 Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    accepted :) i had 4.14 Weighted GPA at the time and 30 ACT. I was captain of my JV team for two years, and president of my church youth group, along with tons of community service. I am asian, and did not apply for financial aid, which may or may not have effected my admission. I didn't get an interview, but requested one, and was in contact with admissions about the interview process.
  • vell28vell28 Registered User Posts: 99 Junior Member
    URM is not nearly as important as people think it is. Look at at typical high school, and count how many applied to schools with >10% acceptance rates (like Ivies). Now of those, tell me how many got in. Probably zero, right? Or very close to. That means URM applicants were also denied. The same applies for all colleges but it's most apparent with schools that reject everyone.

    The ones who get first priority in admissions are legacies and athletes. Not URMs. Being a URM helps, but not so much a college is going to go from "rejection" to "accepted with full ride."
  • 5boys5boys Registered User Posts: 1,775 Senior Member
    gmoh13... asians are considered a URM at LAC's. Asians don't typically apply to LAC"s and it is a know fact that LAC"s are trying to recruit more of them. They are definitely NOT considered URM's at any top tier University. Viel.. I think you are naive.. sorry, I will have to agree to disagree.
  • tk21769tk21769 Registered User Posts: 10,491 Senior Member
    Colorado College needs a Warren Buffett to triple its endowment. Then maybe it could join the ranks of the 40-50 colleges & universities (like Grinnell) that fully meet all demonstrated need.

    As it is, the average percentage of need met by CC is ~98%. This is way better than most other colleges. The down side is that they fully meet the need of only about 81% of students with demonstrated need. Still, this is better than Whitman's 56% or Kenyon's 60% rate.

    Unfortunately, it appears CC is not need-blind. They may be rejecting some borderline (or better than borderline) applicants in favor of full-pay students with equal (or worse) stats. I doubt very many low-EFC ORM applicants are being bumped by high-EFC URMs with lower stats. There just aren't all that many minority students at CC. Diversity and financial aid are both areas where it's a bit weaker than some of the most selective, highest-ranked LACs.
  • tk21769tk21769 Registered User Posts: 10,491 Senior Member
    41% of CC students receive need-based aid. The average aid package is worth ~$37K. Compare Amherst at 58% and ~$38K, respectively. CC's COA is about $2K cheaper. So its average aid package seems to be fairly generous, though relatively few students get it. Would it be better to admit more high-need students but cover a smaller percentage of each student's need?
  • getmeouttahere13getmeouttahere13 Registered User Posts: 11 New Member
    @5boys. Yes, numbers of Asians are in low number at LAC's. However, I don't believe (personally) that top schools such as Colorado College would accept URM's that have major financial need and lower than average test scores just for the sake of increasing diversity. That would go against the whole concept of being a high ranking college--Academics! Why would they pay more for someone less prepared? it certainly doesn't make their college look better. I truly believe in the holistic approach that LAC admissions use, they consider ALL factors. With most emphasis placed on Academics, obviously.
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