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is it true?

cablegatecablegate Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
edited January 2007 in Columbia University
that the core doesn't apply to SEAS?
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Replies to: is it true?

  • truazn8948532truazn8948532 Registered User Posts: 1,512 Senior Member
    Not exactly. I think SEAS kids can take some higher level math/computer science in place of SOME core courses? But the majority of the Core applies like LitHum, Contemporary Civilization, and stuff. Besides, why wud you go to Columbia SEAS if you didn't like the core? Go to Cornell or Penn in that case.
  • cablegatecablegate Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
    no, i love the core, thats why i got scared when someone in another post mentioned that it doesn't apply to SEAS kids.
  • ShrafShraf Registered User Posts: 2,400 Senior Member
    Not exactly. I think SEAS kids can take some higher level math/computer science in place of SOME core courses? But the majority of the Core applies like LitHum, Contemporary Civilization, and stuff. Besides, why wud you go to Columbia SEAS if you didn't like the core? Go to Cornell or Penn in that case.

    basically all of this is wrong.

    the non-science SEAS requirements are:
    2 semesters of major cultures (Lit Hum, CC, or major cultures)
    1 semester of U. Writing
    1 semester Principles of Econ
    1 semester of EITHER music hum or art hum
    2 semesters of physical education
    ...this works out to be approximately half of the college's core

    the science core varries by major but the requirements will range from:
    1-2 semesters of chemistry
    1-3 semesters of physics
    3-5 semesters of math
    1 semester of gateway
    1 semester of either physics lab or chem lab
  • Columbia2002Columbia2002 Registered User Posts: 4,529 Senior Member
    Shraf's list seems about right, but I would add that in addition to the non-science requirements he listed, you have to take a certain number of non-science electives of your choosing. I think it's 3 or 4 classes. You can take anything non-technical you want -- econ, languages, humanities, arts, etc.

    So, with the core and the non-tech electives, it comes out that something like 1/3 of your courses are non-science/engineering. That's quite a lot compared to what it is at a lot of other engineering schools, but of course SEAS is not a hardcore engineering-only school.
  • SkraylorSkraylor Registered User Posts: 1,391 Senior Member
    Shraf's list seems about right, but I would add that in addition to the non-science requirements he listed, you have to take a certain number of non-science electives of your choosing. I think it's 3 or 4 classes. You can take anything non-technical you want -- econ, languages, humanities, arts, etc.

    to be even more exact, what C2002 said is also correct but that isnt set by the university, its set by ABET
  • Columbia2002Columbia2002 Registered User Posts: 4,529 Senior Member
    to be even more exact, what C2002 said is also correct but that isnt set by the university, its set by ABET

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the number of overall non-science classes you need at CU goes way beyond what ABET requires.

    Additionally, the fact that engineers actually have to take 1/2 of the Core makes SEAS much more "liberal arts intensive" than a "traditional" engineering school where you can take a bunch of stuff like the history of math to fulfill your liberal arts requirements. It's for some people, and not for others.
  • ShrafShraf Registered User Posts: 2,400 Senior Member
    yea, i think we go way beyond what ABET wants in terms of liberal arts....liberal arts in SEAS is definately set by the school and not ABET
  • SkraylorSkraylor Registered User Posts: 1,391 Senior Member
    http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/students/academics/dept/cheme.php?tab=undergradreqs

    when you look at 3rd and 4th years and see 3 or 4 "nontech electives", that is something required by ABET. that's what I was commenting on, not major cultures or anything
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