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NYU Stern vs Cornell AEM/Dyson? Need help deciding

bigapple14bigapple14 Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
I got into both NYU Stern and Cornell AEM/Dyson for undergraduate business. I live in NYC and am totally in love with the city. I really like NYU but it seems like it might be a mistake to give up an Ivy. I'm afraid of getting homesick and/or having too much stress at Cornell (I go to one of the top high schools in the city but I've come to resent my workload and want to have a social life and enough SLEEP). I'm primarily interested in Finance and Economics. Could you please tell me about campus life at each school, workload, and general experience?

Also, did anyone grow up in NYC and go to Cornell, and how did you like it? How easy is it to travel between Cornell and NYC (I would want to visit home often)?

Also who are the top recruiters for each school? How do Stern's and Dyson's levels of prestige compare? And how much does the Ivy label matter in this case? I know it's a lot of questions but please answer whatever you can. Thank you!

Replies to: NYU Stern vs Cornell AEM/Dyson? Need help deciding

  • DreamingGirlDreamingGirl Registered User Posts: 100 Junior Member
    I can't speak about those specific departments but many of my friends live in NYC. They all say that Ithaca is really small and doesn't have much. Travel is fairly easy. There is the campus to campus bus run by cornell and numerous other buses that will get you to the city everyday. Sometimes the ticket prices can be a little pricey, particularly on school breaks when everyone wants to take the bus.

    I have found that in general Cornell has a very big workload all around but in the end it's worth it. I personally love Cornell but do not know much about Dyson, though I'm thinking of taking the business minor for engineers and it is supposedly very reputable.
  • bigapple14bigapple14 Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    Yeah I've been looking into the bus system. It seems pretty convenient.

    I heard that the AEM major is one of the easiest at Cornell (on various CC posts), but I'm not sure how much sense that makes given how good the program is supposed to be. Could you tell me about the grade deflation? Also, how are the dorms (and the lottery system)?
  • DreamingGirlDreamingGirl Registered User Posts: 100 Junior Member
    The bus system is very nice and most of the time the buses are on time.

    Cornell is just a very hard school all around which is why some may say that AEM is the easiest (in comparison to others).
    Grade deflation- it hasn't really impacted me, most of my classes are graded on a curve so that the average grade is a B but the grades are actually curved up from the test grades, at least in my classes.
    The dorms are nice, even if you don't get the dorm you want, just about all of the freshman dorms have its own feeling but have all the same things. I choose to be in a program house (themed housing) for the creative and performing arts because I love it. As a freshman you don't get much choice of which dorm you live in unless you want to live in a program house, an all-female dorm, or the townhouses.

    The lottery system for subsequent years depends on where you want to live. West campus (most sophomores wish to live here) is hard to get on if you or a friend don't have a good lottery number. It is completely random what lottery number you get but the good thing is that you get to to choose your exact room and will be with whoever you block(pick rooms) with so you know that you'll be able to pick a room with your friends.
  • bigapple14bigapple14 Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    edited April 2014
    By "very hard" do you mean really stressful? I've read on some threads that there's a lot of pressure, but Stern is supposed to be very competitive too. I'm also a bit concerned about Cornell's reputation for suicides. How true is it and what resources are available for students feeling stressed out or upset?

    How much does GPA matter for recruiting and getting internships?

    Also how far are the freshman dorms from most classes (especially AEM ones if you know)? How cold are the winters? Is it really windy in the winter? Thank you!
  • monydadmonydad Registered User Posts: 7,458 Senior Member
    edited April 2014
    If you are concerned about this "reputation" because you may have inklings along those lines, suggest do not attend.
    Actually the data shows the rate is not above average, and they do have resources of course. But you will be tested there, and the life of college students, anywhere, will not always be wonderful. If there is a reasonable basis for concern that this may be an issue for you, and you have established resources to cope with this near your home, you should stay near home. Where your parents can help as well. IMO.

    BTW NYU has its share of incidents along these lines as well, IIRC.

    As for weather, check here:
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    (cut & paste the whole thing on one line)

  • monydadmonydad Registered User Posts: 7,458 Senior Member
  • monydadmonydad Registered User Posts: 7,458 Senior Member
    As for your other question, according to Google Walking Directions, the walking distance from Mary Donlon Hall on North campus to Warren Hall is 0.6 miles, walking time 14 minutes. The walking distance from Donlon to Goldwyn Smith Hall on the arts quad is 0.7 miles, 14 minutes. Exact times will of course depend on where exactly you live, and what exactly you take. (And how fast you walk).
  • DreamingGirlDreamingGirl Registered User Posts: 100 Junior Member
    It is a big jump from high school but it all depends on how you handle stress if you will find it stressful and how good your time management is.
    Many colleges have a reputation for suicides but there are plenty of resources if you are feeling depressed, I am very familiar with these resources as I have used them (though for family issues) and one of my good friends has a good support system through CAPS (Cornell's counseling service) and her friends to help her out. CAPS is the general counseling service for individual/couple appointments. There is EARS which is for peer advising/listening. And there are several small support groups for different issues.

    The weather is something you have to get used to but it's not as bad as I thought it was. Though my water cap did freeze shut one day when I was walking to class. It can be windy but it isn't any more windy than where I grew up

    As for the distance, all freshmen get free bus passes for their first year.

    As for GPA and internships, it depends how competitive the internship is and what they are looking for. For recruiting it doesn't matter as much, the interview is the most important part and unless they ask, you don't have to even tell the recruiters your GPA.
  • bigapple14bigapple14 Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    Thanks for your help everyone! Sorry I haven't responded in a while. After visiting both campuses again and viewing the presentations, I decided to go with Cornell!
  • monydadmonydad Registered User Posts: 7,458 Senior Member
    Best wishes.
    (And thanks for letting us know, I hate it when we never even find out)
  • DreamingGirlDreamingGirl Registered User Posts: 100 Junior Member
    edited April 2014
    Good luck! Maybe you'll be in my Intro to Micro next semester! Have fun picking classes!
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