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Easy to get in, hard to stay???

summer1997summer1997 Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
I heard Cornell is the easiest ivy to get into, and it has a relatively high acceptance rate, yet most kids either drop out or transfer. What makes it so bad? Is it that many of the kids being accepted are not "ivy" material?

Replies to: Easy to get in, hard to stay???

  • lostaccountlostaccount Registered User Posts: 4,582 Senior Member
    It's neither easy to get into nor does it have a high drop out rate. You might want to check your facts instead of relying on or trying to support circulation of rumors.
  • lostaccountlostaccount Registered User Posts: 4,582 Senior Member
    Further, you mean cornell university right?
  • summer1997summer1997 Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    yes cornell university,and i agree it's definitely not easy to get into but in comparison to other ivy leagues it is easiest, which is why i said compared to other ivy leagues and relatively
    ( http://www.businessinsider.com/ivy-league-acceptance-2018-2014-3 )

    and its articles like these making me wonder if Cornell's label as a "suicide school" is true or not (http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/03/16/cornell#sthash.xRTI7rLW.dpbs )

    i did not say it has a low retention rate, i said that is what i have heard and i was wondering if this is true or just a stereotype/ exaggeration
  • ilovemydogilovemydog Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    Cornell may be easier to get into, but it also has a larger-than-most ivies student body, with many different schools and varying acceptance criteria. I would say there are many very bright students there, as well as in many other top colleges (other than ivies). HYP deny hundreds of the top and brightest students every year, and those students are going somewhere--many go to Cornell, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, etc. These students are often even smarter than those that get into the "top" ivies. I know at least 8 kids who in the past several years have gotten accepted to Harvard, and none of them are as smart as some kids I know who got into Georgetown, Johns Hopkins and Cornell (and who did not get into Harvard). That being said, you have to work at Cornell to get good grades--especially in engineering, but you have to put in the effort at all of the schools. I know someone who dropped out of Cornell, and I know someone who is really struggling, but I wouldn't say "most" kids drop out or transfer (it's just that it is more likely to happen at Cornell that an Harvard or Yale, and that's probably because of grade inflation at those other schools). Both students I know were probably accepted to Cornell as their "reach" school. Those types of kids will definitely feel stress. Even the very bright kids in engineering feel stress---the tests are difficult, and most median grades are B, B+, so it's not easy to get grades in the A range. I think this is Cornell's way of separating the really strong students from the closer-to-average students (who also exist at other ivies, but they choose to equalize everyone once they get there!). Cornell's system is not a bad thing, but if you are not a really strong student or willing to work really hard, you might want to go somewhere where you can get better grades.
  • ilovemydogilovemydog Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    Another thing--there is nothing particularly "bad" about Cornell. In fact, out of all the Ivies, it is by far the most beautiful campus, has the best food, one of the safest campuses, plenty of activities/clubs, well maintained, clean, with a very high-quality student body. There are negatives to any school, but Cornell has many positives.
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