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How stressful is COE/CS?

FoxTrotFanFoxTrotFan Registered User Posts: 30 Junior Member
I was thinking about applying to COE and majoring in CS, but I'm not sure after reading some of these threads... I have some experience in programming, and I like it so far. I don't want to end up hating it. I was also hoping for a balanced college life (social-wise and study-wise).
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Replies to: How stressful is COE/CS?

  • oldfortoldfort Registered User Posts: 22,018 Senior Member
    Why not apply to A&S and major in CS:
    http://www.cs.cornell.edu/

    Not saying it would be easier, but you would get a broader liberal arts education. You could also change your major if you should decide CS is not for you.
  • FoxTrotFanFoxTrotFan Registered User Posts: 30 Junior Member
    That would be preferable but getting into Cornell is a stretch for me, so I wanted to apply for COE since girls have a higher accept rate.
  • LelykeLelyke Registered User Posts: 589 Member
    You take the same CS courses in Eng and Arts & Sciences, the only difference are the requirements. So enrolling in Eng won't make you hate CS. However, if you don't like eng type subjects I would apply to Arts and Sciences. Engineering is way cooler to me but that is biased opinion, check other threads for this topic,
  • CT1417CT1417 Registered User Posts: 4,227 Senior Member
    While we do know that female admit rate to Engineering is much higher than male admit rate to Engineering,
    we do not have any stats on M&F admit rates to CS within A&S. The same acceptance rates may hold.
  • PeppinoPeppino Registered User Posts: 316 Member
    As an Engineering CS major with minimal experience upon entering, I don't think it's too stressful and I definitely feel I've learned a lot.
  • FoxTrotFanFoxTrotFan Registered User Posts: 30 Junior Member
    @Lelyke - Sorry, I was unclear. I meant that a hard CS course along with a hard engineering load might make me start disliking my major. I thought I might be able to avoid this with the still demanding but less rigorous liberal arts type classes.

    @CT1417 - I have a feeling it's more balanced, though. I don't see why Cornell would need to skew the rates for A&S, since it's probably just as popular among female applicants as males.

    @Peppino - Great to know!

  • PeppinoPeppino Registered User Posts: 316 Member
    Are you wavering between CS in Engineering versus CS in Arts?
  • FoxTrotFanFoxTrotFan Registered User Posts: 30 Junior Member
    Yes, I would rather do Arts though, but I'm afraid I'm too weak of an applicant and the female boost for COE would really help.
  • PeppinoPeppino Registered User Posts: 316 Member
    You shouldn't base your decision off that. You should first choose what classes you want to take besides your computer science classes.
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    Or which classes you don't want to take, such as 11 foreign language credits required in A&S :-)
  • KosherBaconKosherBacon Registered User Posts: 101 Junior Member
    edited February 2014
    I took Cornell's CS 1110 (Java, I think they changed to Python) along with ECON 1110 in the Summer College program after my sophomore year of high school. What I can tell you is that it was a very rigorous class. Even though I took a very accelerated version of it, I found it extremely rewarding. It isn't for slackers, and the class was not curved (although I received one of the top grades, better than the actual students there). There were definitely days when I spent most of my free time programming. In particular there was one day when I spent ten hours in a lab (I was there for the AC and to be with other kids in the class). If you really try hard you will succeed.

    I may be extrapolating a bit, however, since I took two classes in a very compressed amount of time, I presume more classes in a longer time would be similar. There were definitely times where I felt like a book worm (programming and reading for economics), and others where I felt as though I had all of the free time I could possibly need.

    P.S. - The courses I took were the real college introductory courses. I applied for CS through engineering. Keep in mind that the requirements for the various colleges are different as mentioned above. That is part of the reason that I applied through engineering and not A&S.
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    How hard was the econ class? Had you taken AP econ beforehand? (I assume not since AP Econ places one out of ECON 1110)
  • KosherBaconKosherBacon Registered User Posts: 101 Junior Member
    @Daddio3, at that point I had never taken a single economics course or computer science course. I did well because I worked hard, took copious notes, and did the homework (there were kids who waited until the last minute [a big no-no for CS]). ECON 1110 is the introductory course and was still very challenging. Keep in mind that I had just finished sophomore year of high school. Also, my school does not offer any AP courses, only honors. I will graduate with 33 semesters worth of honors courses.

    In terms of CS, I had never taken a course, but I did know some information about Java. I was originally in CS 1109 (MATLAB), but switched for a greater challenge. CS 1109 is only offered in the summer and would not have replaced the introductory course that I took.

    The difficulty may or may not scale linearly with the number of courses. Taking double the courses I took may or may not mean double the work (keep in mind over about 2.5x more time).
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    I am impressed -- no worries :-) My son took AP Econ and got a 5 on the test, which give him credit for ECON 1110. My guess is the real class is quite a bit harder, but I was curious just how much.
  • KosherBaconKosherBacon Registered User Posts: 101 Junior Member
    edited March 2014
    @Daddio3,

    I'll be taking the AP Calc AB and likely the AP Physics C: Mechanics tests at the end of this year.

    In general schools prefer that you take their course over receiving AP credit. I believe that Cornell only allows up to 12 outside credits (don't quote me on this), which includes college credit from other schools and AP credits. Since I never took AP Econ I cannot say whether one is more difficult than the other. Given that your son received a 5 I would say that he should be capable for the next level course, bearing in mind that there may be a couple of things he needs to teach himself, or it will be a very difficult start. He very well likely could be very prepared and would have no problem starting. I would pose the question whether he just wants to go to the next level fully knowing the above, or if he takes an 'easier' (for him) class and is fully prepared for the next level?
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