Welcome to College Confidential!

The leading college-bound community on the web

Sign Up For Free

Join for FREE, and start talking with other members, weighing in on community discussions, and more.

Also, by registering and logging in you'll see fewer ads and pesky welcome messages (like this one!)

As a CC member, you can:

  • Reply to threads, and start your own.
  • Post reviews of your campus visits.
  • Find hundreds of pages of informative articles.
  • Search from over 3 million scholarships.

Minority nteraction

paulchempaulchem Registered User Posts: 137 Junior Member
edited May 2006 in Cornell University
I was wondering how friendly everyone is to each other. Do certain races stick with each other? I'm going to the School of Human Ecology and I'm African American. I was wonderimng how the school environment is?
Post edited by paulchem on
«1

Replies to: Minority nteraction

  • trasi86trasi86 Registered User Posts: 177 Junior Member
    Nobody cares. Do what you want. Seclude yourself with black people if that's what you like, or don't. Doesn't matter.

    I'm multi-racial and I have friends of pretty much every conceivable race.
  • abike11abike11 Registered User Posts: 801 Member
    just going off of what u said trasi86, not what u meant, but what is precieved by society-when a group of any race non-white is together, people see them as secluding themeselves, but when a place is like 90 something percent white and only a small percentage ethnic, why isn't that self segregrating?

    i would assume that a majority of people in college have a large amount of friends of the same ethnic background.
  • trasi86trasi86 Registered User Posts: 177 Junior Member
    That's true, abike. But if paulchem had asked the same question but stated he was white, I would have the same reply - Seclude yourself wih white people if that's what you really prefer, but it's definitely not something that's required.
  • paulchempaulchem Registered User Posts: 137 Junior Member
    I was asking. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I attended an all black school for four years. I'm just wondering how I'll deal with transition.
  • jason2811jason2811 Registered User Posts: 249 Junior Member
    live in Ujamma, it's the African-American themed dorm. i visited and have a friend there, it's pretty cool
  • arjuninthehousearjuninthehouse Registered User Posts: 2,195 Senior Member
    paulchem, I believe u'll do just fine. Ive been studying at an Indian school all my life and will face the same situation. But, trust me...we're all the (except for different melanin concentrations): we have unstable hormone levels, we want to do well at Cornell, we prefer gorge jumping to classes...u get it...
  • StPlayrXtremeStPlayrXtreme Registered User Posts: 744 Member
    I can't speak from a minority point of view. But I came to cornell from a town that wasn't very diverse at all.

    A lot of my close friends are of different race, religions, ect.

    I don't think you'll have a problem at all.

    The only thing that I find really frustrating, is that there's a program for minority students before orientation. So, a few of students make friends in the program and stick exclusively to that group, so some people tend to self-segregate. But, most people don't do that...

    You'll fit in fine, everyone's pretty friendly, no worries.
  • aloealoe Registered User Posts: 307 Member
    From my experience, Cornell is pretty racially segregated. Maybe I just come from a really diverse high school, or maybe I see too many international students who speak the same language stick together. But I think most of the time, you will see alot of self segregation, especially by the Asian and black students. Then again, it depends on who you ask. There has been a lot of brouhaha over this recently, and it is a pretty hot topic of discussion. If you could, I would come get a sense of this myself.
  • abike11abike11 Registered User Posts: 801 Member
    why does society call a group of minorities, self segregated? the whole term "self-segregate" ticks me off bc every race does it-meaning has a majority of friends of the same race. and a reason some may say minorities "self segregate" is bc a minority who doesn't stick with thier race usually are called derogatory names or labeled for not being with thier culture and seeking out others as if thier's isn't good enough. i know this happens a lot in high school, does it happen in college or cornell?
  • aloealoe Registered User Posts: 307 Member
    true true. but go to dinner at RPU or even lunch at trillium or something. you will see many groups of students sitting with hordes of other people of the same race. I took some classes at Rutgers, and this was not so.
  • shizzshizz Registered User Posts: 723 Member
    People naturally have more in common with other people of the same race, nationality, religion, etc, so people of a certain whatever tend to stick together. It's natural and happens anywhere. If you want friends from different backgrounds, it's easy to have that. if you want to stick with your own race, it's easy to do so as well.
  • ashernmashernm Registered User Posts: 986 Member
    "just going off of what u said trasi86, not what u meant, but what is precieved by society-when a group of any race non-white is together, people see them as secluding themeselves, but when a place is like 90 something percent white and only a small percentage ethnic, why isn't that self segregrating? "

    "why does society call a group of minorities, self segregated? the whole term "self-segregate" ticks me off bc every race does it-meaning has a majority of friends of the same race. and a reason some may say minorities "self segregate" is bc a minority who doesn't stick with thier race usually are called derogatory names or labeled for not being with thier culture and seeking out others as if thier's isn't good enough. i know this happens a lot in high school, does it happen in college or cornell?"

    When people talk about minorities self segregating, they often think of places like Ujmaa or say, black prelaw students association. The organization identifies itself with a certain ethnicity. Such a racial appeal amounts to segregation. If there is a group with many whites and few of other ethnicities, that's usually because others don't join for whatever reason. White kids at the college republicans aren't self segregating. That others abstain make it look so. Were there an association like white premed student association, your view would be justified, in that case.

    "People naturally have more in common with other people of the same race, nationality, religion, etc," It seems to be more a matter of comfort. If it's commonality you want, there are far better ways to find it than by hanging with your own.
  • red08cured08cu Registered User Posts: 14 New Member
    You shouldn't have a problem; again, you can do what you want. I have plenty of black/indian/chinese ..whatever,,. friends.

    However, cornell does seem to facilitate racial segretation to some degree; at least in the sense that it provides certain ethnic groups with the opportunity to, YES, self segregate themselve sif they so choose. For example, as was mentioned before, the minorities-only pre-cornell thing. also, there is ujumaa living center for black/african-american students, the hispanic/latino living center, etc. i feel like the hispanic students more than anything are the group that segregate themselves; perhaps this is because they are more likely to have a common different language in their background; who knows... i personally would suggest just living in regular housing so you get to meet people of all difft' backgrounds and races (then again, i'm a white student, so it could be that i just don't have as good a perspective on this-- its your call). if you felt extremely uncomfortable you could switch to ujumaa.

    as to being in human ecology, i know quite a few black students in HE (i;m in humec as well) who seem very happy with their situations. human ecology is a prretty small, very supportive school, and the administration is considerate, thoughtful, and always ready to help you. ive had an awesome experience so far. also, it may make you feel comfortable to know that there are at least a few outstanding black/african american individuals (that i can think of off the top of my head) on the administration who perhaps you may want to speak with if you have any concerns.. (for example, Verdene Lee).
  • abike11abike11 Registered User Posts: 801 Member
    i'm african american, i do have a problem to some degree with the housing programs they have at cornell. personally i find the housing segregation of races is a prepetuation of institutional racism, meaning college is a place where people meet people of different backgrounds, explore different cultures and opinions etc. and to have housing separated by race, brings to the for front that why try to be open minded if after college ur just going to go back to ur neighborhood and live the way u were before college. however, Ujamma or the latino, or international etc, serves the purpose of empowerment, an enviroment of support and understanding,safety, and cultural celebrating, that some may need to feel they can make in college and the world.
  • StPlayrXtremeStPlayrXtreme Registered User Posts: 744 Member
    "why does society call a group of minorities, self segregated? the whole term "self-segregate" ticks me off bc every race does it-meaning has a majority of friends of the same race. and a reason some may say minorities "self segregate" is bc a minority who doesn't stick with thier race usually are called derogatory names or labeled for not being with thier culture and seeking out others as if thier's isn't good enough."

    Um, I never meant to imply that non-minorities don't self segregate too. There are many white people to do it too....and it drives me equally as crazy.

    I was in Appel a few weeks ago, and the asian frat was holding an event and they were sitting at these long tables in a group. My friend, who is Chinese and grew up in China, started talking with me, and he seemed really frustrated that the group was based only on the fact that everyone was Asian. To put things in perspective, I also find a couple of the frats (which shall remain nameless) irritating because they are so homogenious and don't bother to know anyone else.

    Yeah, it might take less effort to get along with people that have a similar background. But college is a time to break out of the confort zone a little bit.

    " a minority who doesn't stick with thier race usually are called derogatory names or labeled for not being with thier culture "

    I don't feel that way, I don't know anyone that does feel that way (and if I did, I would steer clear of them)...and I'm sorry if anyone has acted that way to you. Also, Sorry if I said something wrong.


    I'm finding this to be an interesting string, a lot of things I've noticed have come up, but don't usually talk about it.
«1
This discussion has been closed.