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Cornell is now what you can call a “Public Ivy”?


Replies to: Cornell is now what you can call a “Public Ivy”?

  • Nocreativity1Nocreativity1 1112 replies55 threads Senior Member
    edited May 2019
    @dadof4kids "I feel like the point of this thread is that parents/students/alumni (but probably mostly parents) of non HYP Ivies can put their school above Cornell. The term Public Ivy is being misused to imply that Cornell is inferior to the others."

    As a parent of a non HYP Ivy student Cornell is in my mind every bit as rigorous, elite and praise worthy as my kids school. So are Duke, Chicago, Gtown, Vandy, UCB, UVA, etc (hardly an all inclusive list).

    All of these schools have unique characteristics, areas of focus and geographic differences. They share however the ability to provide a student with a great education.

    I hate terms like public Ivy because it sucggests a need for comparison. My son or his friends never respond to the question of where do you go to school with "one of the Ivy League school's". Instead they take pride in the individuality of the school they attend. Parents could learn a bit from our kids example.
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  • Baddog11710Baddog11710 5 replies4 threads New Member
    Cornell Engineering has between a 6% and 7% acceptance rate for men, about twice that for the ladies . In many ways the Cornell engineering program is rated the best in the IVY. They have great programs to help the 1st year engineering students get involved in projects and with the difficult classes. It is not like MIT which is sink or swim.

    It is easier to get into Cornell liberal arts programs then all the other IVY. But if you worked that hard to get to that level you want to find a major/program that is going to lead to better career goals. I was at a tour of Yale last August and the tour guide was a Political Science grad who had not found a job in 3 months and was getting desperate. A liberal arts degree does not do what it once did in the job market even from Yale.
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  • websensationwebsensation 2132 replies40 threads Senior Member
    edited November 2019
    I can tell you all departments at Cornell are very very strong. I would know because I changed my major five times. If it were not for their location, they would be ranked much higher. Bad weather except for summer and bad location (too removed). Campus is one of the most beautiful imo.
    edited November 2019
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  • Luckyjade2024Luckyjade2024 666 replies9 threads Member
    There are so many ridiculous comments in this discussion about "public ivy" ...I cannot waste time justifying them with a comment.

    I will say it is silly to assume one would not choose Cornell over other Ivies...when in fact many do, especially for the specific programs that are unique to ONLY Cornell.
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  • privatebankerprivatebanker 6883 replies170 threads Senior Member
    edited December 2019
    If you don’t think h and y don’t give a bit of a break to the local students each year - statistically, is misinformed. Talk to the kids at Latin and other Boston area schools.

    I love that Cornell has some connection to the state that granted the charter and pathways for success.

    I agree with @skieurope Each school has a unique set of characteristics. Heck there’s a whole thread on UChicago perceptions vis a vis Ivy schools and Rhodes scholarships etc. I think that focus misses the point as well.

    I think for many students, the “throwaway“ applications that drive admission rates lower are not doing so at Cornell.

    In my, albeit small universe, the students think of Cornell as exceedingly rigorous and competitive.

    Especially for premeds cs maths and engineering. Which are a growing part of the calculus in today’s majors in focus.

    Its cutthroat and weed out reputation is actually daunting for many.

    Unlike many other Ivy League schools where, rightly or wrongly, the perception is that the most difficult task is to gain admission. Failure isn’t part of the expected experience. This isn’t true imho but it does have an impact on the application volumes to me.

    Cornell in my eyes is the Ivy U Chicago and UCB. Get in and buckle up.
    edited December 2019
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