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I'm way too self confident =)

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  • azhao525azhao525 Registered User Posts: 216 Junior Member
    I'm going to admit: I felt that we were way harsh on this kid at first; but now that I have actually managed to read through it ALL, I completely changed my mind.

    Guys, Butterbattle is right. Stop trying to appear like Saints and going "you have a chance, CH! GOOD LUCK." The truth is, luck won't help him; unfortunately, I don't believe anything will.

    We all try to dream of being in an Ivy, but the simple fact is that the NUMBERS take up the most important part of all applications for ivys. Candidly put, 90% of applicants for Ivys not only have absolutely outstanding stats, but extremely amazing ECs, essays, etc. Our young friend here, has.. well.. none of it. This might be brutal to here, but come on, let's face reality. The world itself is a Survival of the Fittest.

    But I have to say, CommunistHunter, your chess essay was splendid. I didn't really look at it all too detailed in terms of grammar or spelling, but I have to say the last few lines caught most of my attention. At first, I just thought you were some psychotic rapist trying to tell a fictional story that was rather brutal, and the clicks were quite annoying. But the last few lines gave it all a nice twist, sort of like a good Shakespearean sonnet. The sad question is, can the adminofficer survive till the last few lines?

    I've noticed that you have managed to avoid the question "What's the title of your book?" quite a few times. I don't need you to tell me, but I just thought that was an interesting fact. It just makes one's mind ponder about the valid existance of this "book", as you call it.
  • norcalguynorcalguy Registered User Posts: 7,548 Senior Member
    butterbattle, getting into HYP IS 50% based on luck
    i'm sure the majority of HYP applicants each year are perfect students;
    an ex- Harvard admission officer once told me that at times she had to literally close her eyes and pull one application out of the a pile of perfect applications, and whoever it was got accepted.

    Yes, she pulled one application out of a stack of 2300+, 4.0 GPA freaks. It doesn't mean someone with a 3.0 has the same chances as someone with a 3.9. A 3.0 is really really low and it's not balanced by an impressive SAT score.

    The chess essay is more interesting. Too bad you didn't send it to Cornell although I don't think 1 essay will undo 3 years of subpar grades.
  • azhao525azhao525 Registered User Posts: 216 Junior Member
    I believe you guys should check out this article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/education/04colleges.html

    Needless to say, these don't account for ECs or other stuff, but still...
  • butterbattlebutterbattle Registered User Posts: 227 Junior Member
    But I have to say, CommunistHunter, your chess essay was splendid.
    The chess essay is more interesting. Too bad you didn't send it to Cornell

    I hate to go against the flow yet, again, but I thought this essay was worse than the one about freedom.
    Harvard turned down 1,100 student applicants with perfect 800 scores on the SAT math exam.

    I'm assuming, then, that the 1,100 did not have perfect scores in other areas. The same goes for the other statistics. The article also does not mention the people with lower scores who got accepted. It's a good article, but kind of biased, trying to scare people.
  • azhao525azhao525 Registered User Posts: 216 Junior Member
    HAHA yea. unfortunately that happens.

    Sorry but I have to say you missed the point of what I was trying to say with CH's chess essay. Although it was good at the end, it was rather dull in the beginning... I didn't even read it except the first 3 lines and the last 3 lines. Based on those 6 lines, I thought it was pretty good. HAHA :p

    And yea, the article, I thought it was an interesting read. :] Sometimes people need to be scared so they don't get as cocky as.. ahem.. some.. =P

    Do you mind chancing me on my post? You're a critic, and I love that. TY in advance. :)
  • esmitty01esmitty01 Registered User Posts: 671 Member
    "I hate to go against the flow yet, again, but I thought this essay was worse than the one about freedom. "

    dude, no. that chess essay was dank. It captured my attention, i wanted to know what he was talking about, then it had a sick twist at the end. Very well written. and i do think the admissions officer would be intrigued enough to read it through and then would find themselves quite entertained.

    3.0 is kinda low for cornell though.
    good luck man
  • fudgemasterfudgemaster Registered User Posts: 836 Member
    You're chess essay is very innovative. You should send it to Cornell as a supplemental essay.
  • butterbattlebutterbattle Registered User Posts: 227 Junior Member
    I should stop making promises.
    dude, no. that chess essay was dank.
    You're chess essay is very innovative. You should send it to Cornell as a supplemental essay.

    ****. We're evaluating this essay using completely different criteria here. Fine, it's entertaining, it's creative, it's innovative, it's unique. SO WHAT?

    Sure, an application essay needs to be interesting, but if admissions officers analyzed app essays purely based on their entertainment value, then everyone would be submitting short, humorous, fiction stories.

    What does an admissions officer gain from reading this essay except that he's a creative writer, he sucks at chess, and his brain has tunnel vision? Are you people in elementary school or something? You don't even understand the point of writing an admissions essay?!?!?! Yeah, it's a great essay, FOR HIS BOOK OR FOR A CREATIVE WRITING CONTEST!!!!!! Not for a college application!!!!! Easier colleges might allow it, but not the Ivy League.
    My queen was alive; there was no way they would ever take her. But in my obsession with her safety, my king was not.

    Perhaps overanalyzing a situation isn’t as helpful as you’d think.

    JACKPOT! Did you actually imagine this stuff when you were playing the chess game?? NO! Pieces attack queen, queen runs. What the **** did you analyze. If anything, it shows that you did not analyze enough.

    If you had been planning a humongous offensive on the kingside, starting with a bishop sacrifice, seeing 8 moves in advance, going to through dozens of variations in your head, and not seeing that you were about to be checkmated, THAT is analyzing too much.

    However, that is not what happened. You didn’t have a plan. You saw zero moves in advance. You went through zero variations. You didn’t know what the **** you were doing!!!! There was absolutely no analysis involved there.
  • butterbattlebutterbattle Registered User Posts: 227 Junior Member
    question: does truth suffer from too much analysis?

    The truth suffers from too much BS.
  • CommunistHunterCommunistHunter Registered User Posts: 165 Junior Member
    Just to clear things up, the chess thing was for the Honors program at GWU, where they specifically wanted creativity and such. It was just another essay i've written where I didn't try too hard like i did with the whole freedom thing.

    Anyway, to be honest, i really don't particularly care about Cornell. I mean, so many schools have great programs and it really doesn't matter where you end up nearly as much as so many kids think. It's all name recognition. And to be honest, I applied to Cornell just for the heck of it. That's all. I don't even have the mandatory two subject tests, so they may not even look at my application at all.

    Lesson learned with the essays though. Reading back on the first two, I really dunno what I was trying to do. They had good ideas, but I guess I tried way too hard to make it "stand out", and in the end never really said that much, other than I wasn't going to use conventional essay styles. I used these essays for a bunch of schools, so I may regret that.

    But again, if I don't end up in the top schools, then I'm fine with that.

    And thanks butterbattle; twas a lesson learned with the essays.

    ^^bet you didn't see that coming.
  • please1please1 Registered User Posts: 220 Junior Member
    i actually think you will get in. You seem to be very unique.
  • CommunistHunterCommunistHunter Registered User Posts: 165 Junior Member
    i actually think you will get in. You seem to be very unique.
    ehhh, no. :)
  • azhao525azhao525 Registered User Posts: 216 Junior Member
    Sorry, I don't mean to be snappy, but

    "But again, if I don't end up in the top schools, then I'm fine with that."

    Then... Why bother even making this thread and going "I'm way too confident"? Seems like a waste of time, don't you think?

    But I must say, you changed like your entire perspective to thinking "I have a chance" to "I have no chances". You let other people do that to you with criticism. WHYY? Keep your stance. Okay, you may say that it's because you lack a subject test, but that's just an excuse. A few of Cornell's undergrad colleges don't even need subject tests... You ARE aware of that, right?

    Keep up your self-esteem but don't overblow it like you seemed to have done earlier. That's all I have to say. :]
  • azhao525azhao525 Registered User Posts: 216 Junior Member
    Oh btw, I don't think you have seen the post "I can dream, right?".

    My thread's title was directed at THAT because that person's profile resembled yours so much. Sorry if there was a confusion; I really didn't mean to have it directed at you.
  • CommunistHunterCommunistHunter Registered User Posts: 165 Junior Member
    Nothing's changed in my mind at all.

    "I'm way too self confident" -> Ha. I have a 3.1 and i'm applying to top schools thinking i have a shot, while finding it amusing that in reality I probably don't.

    Thats all this thread is. I made another one for carnegie and some other schools just for the heck of it. I don't get what else people are getting from the title.

    I mean, of course i've got a shot. Everyone's got a shot. But did I ever really think i'd get admitted to any top schools? Not really, i still dont. Of course i still applied and think i could get in, but it probably isn't very likely.

    We really need to put this thread to rest. I think 90 replies is enough.
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