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General Advice on Foreign Schools.

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  • armaryland17armaryland17 304 replies44 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 348 Member
    sen1: KEM is one of the best med schools in Pk. You should have given it a try.
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  • GaideeGaidee 2 replies1 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3 New Member
    cetsweetie i think its quite hard to get in to med school in england, the competition is massive, like 60% of applicants dnt get a place, despite very high grades! which is why i am thinking going to america :D but i think its a same way thing, for example the money. if you come to the UK as an international you have to pay lots of money, but i mean if somebody from Europe would go to the US they would have to be very rich because a lot of grands and lones american students can recieve other cant (same in the UK). However, UK unis have a set number of international students they accept, in some cases they migh prefer you, because you are going to pay them like ten times more compared to a UK student. Hope that helps :D
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  • sara131sara131 4 replies2 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 6 New Member
    HEyy i was wondering can you do pre med in Canada then apply for medical school in America (because medical school is very competitive there's only about 13)is there an equal chance of getting in as american undergraduates?
    also i currently live in the UAE and was wondering what kind of tests I would have to take
    in order to enter the residency program or internship in america or canada

    thanks
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  • mmmcdowemmmcdowe 2321 replies32 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,353 Senior Member
    Not an equal chance, no. Many of the schools dont' accept foreign students. However, it is still probably easier than getting into a Canadian school
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  • sara131sara131 4 replies2 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 6 New Member
    could someone please reply to the second part of my question
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  • otisotis 142 replies24 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 166 Junior Member
    There are only 4 Carib med schools that one desiring to practice in the US should consider:

    -- St. George's
    -- American University of the Caribbean
    -- Ross University
    -- Saba

    Please understand that the above 4 should not be considered as first options for a US resident however the above 4 schools do provide a reasonable alternative for a student that is not accepted in a US med school.

    See the below link entitled "Caribbean Medical Schools: A Good Option?"
    Caribbean Medical Schools: A Good Option?|Student Doctor Network
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  • tqamer786tqamer786 1 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1 New Member
    Im currently a medical school student at Dow International. It was recently opened in Karachi Pakistan for intnl students in 2009. Look at thetarick.com for info.
    DUHS.EDU.PK

    Its better than King Edwards and all of the students are from abroad. All of the curriculum is in English
    If you have any questions post a reply :)
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  • 311710rvmt311710rvmt 87 replies10 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 97 Junior Member
    You can try applying to medical school to Europe, since it is much cheaper, but it is very difficult. I applied to med school in UK as a high school senior and I thought it would be a good idea. You have to take a special test you can order by mail or internet. It was the most difficult test I have ever taken (called the B.M.A.T.). I didn't get into Oxford, but then I found I that they only had 20 spots for foreigners. It's the same at Cambridge. You can only apply to Oxford and Cambridge because they are the only ones that accept foreigners without a Baccalaureate Degree and without UK-equivalent courses. IB is UK-equivalent, but there are few IB high schools in USA. An even smaller minority of that minority of offers High Level Physics and Chemistry which are required for Medicine in UK. What was the irony is that if was UK or EU resident, I would have probably gotten into a decent medical school (perhaps UCL). So I'm not sure if I recommend this for other American high school students.
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  • richardaddorichardaddo 74 replies27 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 101 Junior Member
    i will be going to a medical school in Russia next month but i want to know whether I can practice in the U.S after I graduate. If not, what are the things I would have to do or examinations I would have to take before I can finally practise in the U.S after graduating from the Russian Medical School?
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  • harvard76harvard76 162 replies75 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 237 Junior Member
    Im just a high school student now, but I am wondering if I do want to study in the US and would like to attend either Oxford or Cambridge, which one would be the better one to attend. And I recall seeing an earlier post on this thread that if one did come back to the US he would have to take many exams. But if he has already done his STEP 1 and STEP 2, he should be able to apply to a residency program right?
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  • mmmcdowemmmcdowe 2321 replies32 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,353 Senior Member
    Most UK medical schools are straight from high school. Do either of those schools even have a post BS program for international students?
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  • snowy435snowy435 452 replies51 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 503 Member
    I apologize for intruding on this forum but I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it for me to apply to oxford, Cambridge medicine as an undergrad applicant? thank you so much for your help/time.

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  • 311710rvmt311710rvmt 87 replies10 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 97 Junior Member
    You sound like me! I took the BMAT Nov 2009 and applied to Oxford from the USA. I had a similar school profile, except more AP tests (all 5/5) but not internship experience (no opportunities nearby) and slightly (20 pts) lower SAT. First, don't assume you'll do well on the BMAT. It is a DIFFICULT test. You feel depressed after you take it because of the time constraints. I didn't do Oxford good on the BMAT although I scored well enough compared to the average (If I were british, I would have gotten into a med school, just not the best). Second, you can only apply to EITHER Oxford or Cambridge, not both. Oxford is slightly less prestigious than Cambridge. You can't apply to other schools because they are not friendly to foreign applicants. Third, Oxford and Cambridge have very small quotas for foreign students, with each accepting less than 30 per year from the entire non-EU world. I, personally, got rejected from Oxford and don't think its very likely to get in. Also, you become a foreign medical graduate and need to take the USA exams when/if you come back. On the other hand, application fees are minimal and it's a chance at a fairly cheap and EXCELLENT medical education.
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  • 082349082349 2143 replies85 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,228 Senior Member
    Oxbridge is SUPER hard to enter for international medicine students. You can't expect to get a 'decent/ok' BMAT score. You should be getting the best score.
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  • vpappas83vpappas83 116 replies10 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 126 Junior Member
    You guys are forgetting one key piece of information... DUAL CITIZENSHIP, due to the influx of immigrants in the 70's many 20-30 year old would be med candidates are dual citizens of many European countries, the advantage now being that we go where there is a spot. If there are 20 spots for foreign students, and there is a EU student with a US Bachelor's degree... guess what... they have precedence. Is it possible to apply and get in... but don't make the mistake of thinking grades entitle you.
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  • Georgia79Georgia79 4 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 4 New Member
    Going to med school outside of the US (assuming you want to practice there later) is a very bad idea. Although it may be cheaper and you can attend after high school there are many disadvantages which far outweigh the advantages. NO.1 The quality of the your education will be much worse. It may be easier while you are studying but after finishing your degree you will not be in a good position to pass the US board exams. If you do manage to pass it is not very likely you will get residency there. That means you could spend 6 or 7 years (in some countries a one year internship is required) in a foreign country only to never be able to practice medicine in the US. Of course you might know somebody who studied abroad and successfully returned to the states, this is the exception not the rule The odds are against you.
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  • GALENOGALENO 4 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 4 New Member
    Be aware that 25% of all USA trained and licence MD are IMG ,some are heads of academic departments,residency programs,distinguished reserchers and most are excellent medical practitioners.and believe me patients do not ask what medical school you graduated from ,they want to know that you care for them,they want to be treated with respect ..I HAVE NEVER BEING ASK IN THE LAST 30 YEARS WHAT MED SCHOOL I ATTENDED (U S GRAD)OR WHERE I COMPLETED MY RESIDENCE..some caribbean med schools are excellent and their students will excell in this country....
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  • GALENOGALENO 4 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 4 New Member
    You should consider adding the American Uiversity in Antigua to the list,They have a state of art modern campus ,is a US model medical med school with reputable training hospital in the in the states (also a Vet School affiliated wit V Tech
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  • GALENOGALENO 4 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 4 New Member
    With your excellent credentials why bother going to a Uk Med school,finish strong at Duke and apply to the top US med schools then to the top US recidency programs ...
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  • pemphredopemphredo 32 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 32 Junior Member
    Georgie79 "The quality of the your education will be much worse. It may be easier while you are studying but after finishing your degree you will not be in a good position to pass the US board exams."

    You have proof of this? This suggests doctors in the UK and other European countries are not as well trained as those in the US? I doubt that. The NHS may not be as well resourced as private hospitals across all fields but doctors in the UK study Medicine for 6 years through undergaduate and graduate studies.They do not study an unrelated subject for their first degree. I'm not sure how long students spend in Medical school in the States but I don't think its that long?

    Medical Boards in all countries have to ensure competence for practicing doctors. We do the same here in the UK and also test language skills etc. I can understand why countries set extra exams for overseas students, but I would think an Oxbridge medical degree would set you in good stead for any international exams.

    Now residency is another thing...since thats more dependent on individual interviews and the personal prejudices of those doing the selection - as with any job application.
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