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Schools like Emory?

Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
edited December 2013 in Emory University
So I'm in the process of working in my college apps. Although I have a general list right now, I wanted to add one or two more schools
So I was wondering what are some schools like emory?
To be specific, schools that have a good business school, near a city but the actual campus location is a suburban area, not a super cutthroat, super competitive, and super stressful, and prestigius (I know its not all about prestige though). I was just wondering. Any input would be awesome. I've already done research but I just wanted to know if there were a few more schools that I should check out still
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  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat 1496 replies43 threads Senior Member
    Not many schools with good b s hools. You can try uva I guess.
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  • Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
    UVA is way to preppy for me tbh
    But I'm still applying, I just didn't really connect with it when I visited it as much as I did other schools.
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  • sportsmom2016sportsmom2016 253 replies18 threads Junior Member
    Perhaps consider Tulane, University of Miami and Boston College.
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  • Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
    In what ways would you say Emory is similar to Boston college? Thanks for the suggestions! :)
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  • whenhenwhenhen 5530 replies111 threads Senior Member
    Here are some common cross applicants schools:
    -U Miami
    -Tulane
    -Northwestern (much more selective, but somewhat similar)
    -Wake Forest (may be a bit too preppy)
    -USC (urban, not what you want, but popular with Californians seeking a private school)
    -Wash U St. Louis (more selective than Emory, but basically the same school, just with colder weather and engineering. Also our "rival")

    Here are some institutions that seem somewhat similar to Emory, but don't seem to get cross applicants:
    -SMU (much less diversity)
    -American (maybe)
    -University of Denver (not sure about its b-school)

    Then there are the public flagships, many of which have very well respected business schools and are located in suburban areas.
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  • sportsmom2016sportsmom2016 253 replies18 threads Junior Member
    BC is located in a nice suburb (Chestnut Hill section of Newton) which is very close to Boston. The school has a good reputation and a strong, involved alumni network. Nice group of kids who all want to / expect to do well but also like to have a good time.

    I have known folks from both Emory and BC and they are similar type people - decent, hardworking, reasonable - not at all full of themselves. It could just be the people I know so this is just my impression.

    If you are looking to be in the south then I would take a good look at Tulane if it is not already on your list.
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  • PsychoDad10PsychoDad10 1188 replies7 threads Senior Member
    WUSTL, Northwestern, BC. BC has a larger number of students than the first two.
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  • bernie12bernie12 5432 replies10 threads Senior Member
    Aren't Tulane and Miami similar? They are both decent schools, but are kind of party"esque" in atmosphere and are generally regarded as less rigorous than places like Emory. Also, they have the more traditional sports scene as far as I know and that will definitely make a difference. I know that Boston College has an awesome business school and has a similar caliber student body.

    However, overall, you must keep in mind that most top private schools (the engineering heavy ones are an exception, and so are places like BU and Princeton because of harsher grading) will not actually be super cut-throat or super stressful due to the amount of grade inflation and stuff. Normally stress is the stress that students put on themselves to be perfect and is not necessarily reflective of the actual workload at such schools. With that said, Schools like Emory will indeed be stressful (though not super) if you are pre-professional. Pre-business and pre-medical students at most elite schools will have to deal with interesting grading curves. In the case of business classes at the best BBA programs, the grading curve can actually be punitive. If the course is easy, your grade can actually be curved downward from what it would be if the class graded on a normal scale (where a 93 is an A for example). This is the opposite of science courses, where the curves help students pass and get B's that they would maybe be 10-20 points away from if the normal scale was applied. Tough science courses design exams to give between a 60 and 79 average and thus a wide distribution. This is rare in many b-school classes and often numerical grades are very compressed at the top. The only benefit of the b-school core class and elective curves is the transparency. They publish the distribution brackets/ideals so you have a heads up. In difficult science classes that were purely dependent upon test scores, averages are curved to some arbitrary (either C+/B- or B-/B. At least core b-school classes curve to at least a B).
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  • Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
    Although I don't want to study 24/7, I also don't want to go to a 24/7 party school. But both schools still look good

    I meant stressful as in terms of workload. Schools like CMU and W&M are schools that I'd like to avoid because of how tough the workload is abd how stressed out everyone is. In totally prepared to work hard abd study (which is why I don't want to go to a huge party school), but I don't want to be stressed out 24/7.

    I'd also really like urban areas, and I'm looking at USC. Although this is really a nitpicking thing, but preppy/rich student bodies aren't something i love. But it's not a huge factor. Just a little bit picking thing.

    I appreciate all the input so far. If you guys have any more, I would really appreciate it! :D
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  • bernie12bernie12 5432 replies10 threads Senior Member
    CMU has a heavy workload (it has so many science and engineering students), but I think the workload at places like W&M are over-rated (as are non-engineering and non-physical science majors at places like Berkeley, where students always complain about the rigor. I have looked at much of their stuff too, and outside of the two I mention, it's not overly tough if not slightly easier than it's private peers, and the grading is very similar to places like Emory, Vanderbilt, Cornell, ND, and Penn, which all grade kind of on the low side for non-engineering private elites). I stumbled across some of their course websites, and it appears no different from Emory and was in many cases, less intense (you could tell by the number of assignments, components, and the rigor of the exams associated with the courses). One difference is that they probably have harsher grading practices. But in general, just be careful about the hearsay of how hard some schools are, because depending on your intended major, it doesn't apply. You typically hear lots of whining coming from schools with big engineering scenes and some of the intensive liberal arts colleges. Make no mistake, many of the elite institutions you don't hear students complain about in terms of the workload, likely have the same intensity or are tougher depending on your field of study. You just don't hear about it (or feel it) until you are there. Not to mention, often students at such schools are less vocal about struggling academically. Many pieces have been written about how those at the very top schools try to "keep up appearances". Many people at such schools just try their hardest to make it look as if they are perfect or as if everything is going well academically, and thus you won't hear much discussion about the rigors of those schools. People just try to keep smiling and move on. It all depends on the culture of the school in terms of whether or not you hear people openly discussing their workload and such.
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  • sanguineesanguinee 751 replies57 threads Member
    Vanderbilt and Rice? Maybe
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  • bernie12bernie12 5432 replies10 threads Senior Member
    I think the 3 are much different from each other. And 2 don't even have a BBA program I don't think. Though Rice and Emory are more similar to each other than either is to Vanderbilt other than the sports I guess. Rice and Vandy have D-1, but the feel of Rice vs. Vandy is completely different despite this fact. The residential college/house system at Rice creates something seen at a place like Princeton. Rice and Emory are a bit more academic leaning in terms of balance. Also, Atlanta and Houston are very different from Nashville. I think Vandy compares more favorably with places like Duke, Stanford (okay, this is a bit different, partially because of the huge engineering scene and the fact that they are on the west coast), and, UVA, and Notre Dame in terms of atmosphere.
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  • Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
    How would you guys say Washington University in St.Louis is similar to Emory?
    And us its undergrad business school any good?
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  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat 1496 replies43 threads Senior Member
    I think nobody has touched on this - No two schools are alike... Or even "similar".

    There's a lot of cross-applicants (not the same thing as cross-admits) between the two. Actually, third to UPenn and Emory or Cornell and Emory if I would have to guess. If that is any help.

    But, in terms of similarity, that's all I could tell you. Unless you are looking for specific similarities - programs or city or type of student body. There will be no school who matches all three perfectly.


    Yes, it's a good school. And, it's business school is really good as far as business schools go. Places more people in Chicago (and, much less in ATL) than Emory does. Same number in NYC I think.

    Undergrad business is a really general term. If you're looking for something like a hedge fund or bulge bracket as your goal, then WUSTL probably gives a better chance (although neither are really target schools). If it's consulting or accounting, then Emory does a great job feeding into the big ATL companies, while WUSTL competes with several other schools for Chicago. ATL just has more going on the St. Louis in the business world, and you're generally only fighting with Vandy grads for spots.
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  • bernie12bernie12 5432 replies10 threads Senior Member
    Tech and UGA aren't competition in Atlanta? I would at least worry about Tech (though I guess many of them would go to more IT oriented companies) perhaps moreso than Vandy.
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  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat 1496 replies43 threads Senior Member
    Exactly. Tech is a great school and the students are smart enough to do it IF they wanted to. But I think they're more interested in programming and engineering and working for Apple or Google or whatever than they are in working for banks or accounting firms. Just a different student body.

    UGA is competitive and one of the best state schools, and has a good alumni base, and GA loves its college football, which helps. But, overall, it's not on the same prestige level as Emory- which matters more in the business world than anywhere else. I don't think we see them as competition for the same jobs. They'll beat us every once in a while, but not enough to view them as major competition.


    Huge difference from WUSTL- which competes with UChicago, Notre Dame, and UIUC for Chicago jobs. As well as much of the Ivy League that couldn't get a spot in NYC or Boston.
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  • Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
    Is UIUC on the same prestige level as Emory in regards fir business?
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  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat 1496 replies43 threads Senior Member
    Idk. It's pretty good.
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  • Keely613Keely613 105 replies18 threads- Junior Member
    I never thought it was THAT good. Regardless, Interesting to know
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  • bernie12bernie12 5432 replies10 threads Senior Member
    I don't know about it for business, but I hear the education there is amazing. It's prestigious enough.

    aluminum: I was just under the impression that regional loyalty to schools like UGA would play a role in the Atlanta. The region is very loyal to UGA, perhaps moreso than Tech and Emory which both have higher caliber students. I thought that this loyalty would make up for their lack prestige as we view it. As for the competition of the top midwestern schools, that must kind of suck. There are certainly advantages of GBS being in Atlanta, but given the demographics of the school and many students being from the mid-Atlantic, many want to return up to the large northern cities. And it's unfortunate that, no matter the quality of GBS, it won't really be a target of that many of those companies and certainly not the IBs. The business world prestige almost seems as if it's mostly based upon history.

    For example, if GBS's BBA program were to one day outperform or be more innovative in many aspects than a place like Wharton, it wouldn't really matter because of the Halo effect and the branding. It seems hard to grow brand recognition beyond a certain point (GBS has come a VERY long way, but still..) and that's what seems to matter and some places have lots of history on their side. This is not to say that GBS is at the level of Wharton (despite being excellent, still not that), but to basically say that it's the UG entity that is probably driven and well-positioned enough to be with a place like that in terms of quality at least. However, I wonder if the 2 year thing ultimately screws them in some senses. I like the idea behind it, but it's the same situation as us missing out on engineering and applied sciences students, where most of the higher caliber students interested in that would not want to do a 3-2 program just as higher caliber pre-bus students would likely prefer a 4 year curriculum over a 2 year curriculum (though admittedly, it appears the 2 year structure has brought about unexpected innovations of BBA students that likely drew from experiences and interests pursued while in ECAS. This may partially explain why, despite the SATs of BBA students at Emory being lower than most of the peers, the end "product" is basically as strong.).
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