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  • HarvestMoon1HarvestMoon1 6200 replies28 threads Senior Member
    edited October 2017
    All school's have to follow those procedures when alleged harassment is involved @roycroftmom. Title IX applies to high schools as well as colleges. Unless of course they are just ignoring policy and procedure which I agree would be problematic.
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 3065 replies39 threads Senior Member
    No. Title 9 only applies to all schools which accept, directly or indirectly, public funds from the federal government or are affiliated in a system which does. Our school does not and we know nothing about the school in question.
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  • HarvestMoon1HarvestMoon1 6200 replies28 threads Senior Member
    edited October 2017
    It is a charter school that is the subject of this thread. DOE says Title IX applies to charter schools. While the Dear Colleague Letter has been rescinded by DeVos and new guidelines are under consideration, Title IX as a law should still apply.

    DOE letter confirming Title IX applies to charter schools:

    https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201405-charter.pdf
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 3065 replies39 threads Senior Member
    Sex harassment should be taken seriously. But 12 charges over a 4 week period suggests either he was constantly harassing most of his female classmates or collusion was involved. Either way it should be further explained by the school.
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  • toomanyteenstoomanyteens 1033 replies63 threads Senior Member
    I guess I thought we were innocent until proven guilty in this country - even when we are kids. That doesn't mean excusing or dismissing that means getting all the facts and having due process. If the boy did lick them or 'grope' them I agree that is incredibly inappropriate, but we don't KNOW that yet. I was under the impression the parents didn't KNOW about any of it until he was suspended that there were even any accusations. Maybe I misunderstand - it is possible.
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  • 3puppies3puppies 1749 replies12 threads Senior Member
    So, @iaparent , did anything happen to your son's accuser, or was the dismissal of the charges after the Dean's investigation taken as a repudiation of her credibility?

    I still don't think I 100% believe the OP's story.
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  • sybbie719sybbie719 20757 replies2011 threads Super Moderator
    edited October 2017
    @roycroftmom,

    I am sorry that I did not preference my comments with I work at a public school. It has been my experience that public schools must have policies in place to deal with sexual harassment and bullying in school.

    At the NYC DOE it falls under the Respect for All.

    http://schools.nyc.gov/RulesPolicies/RespectforAll/default.htm
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  • PetraMCPetraMC 792 replies5 threads Member
    "I guess I thought we were innocent until proven guilty in this country - even when we are kids. That doesn't mean excusing or dismissing that means getting all the facts and having due process."

    The counselor said that he admitted it. That's going to be enough proof for this school to impose a minor off-the-record suspension. He's not facing charges.
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  • iaparentiaparent 278 replies2 threads Junior Member
    To dig a bit deeper based on 3puppies question, to date nothing has happened with the accuser but while we have a good outcome to date, things are not closed yet. I think her role in this is why he is still in a bit of limbo.

    My wife wants blood from her for everything he (we) have gone through but I don't think there is a lot that can be done. She didn't necessarily allege anything that didn't happen, she just exaggerated or misconstrued the context and her role in the events so while this was very much retaliatory, she didn't outright lie.

    The above being said, this same woman had already, in the first week of school, accused another student of stalking her. It was investigated and while we don't know the outcome he was able to move back into the dorm after the investigation. Rumor has it she has alleged he continued to stalk her and he is currently up for a full hearing for expulsion. My son has said that the kid is creepy and did follow her, ask her out, etc. but as he said the kid is awkward and probably did not mean anything by it. I have a feeling based on her filing 3 complaints within the initial 3-4 weeks of school they are looking into if she is part of the issue, especially in light of there being no finding against my son. My son has had all restrictions lifted so he does see her and I think they are waiting to close the file to see if she goes to the well again or if my son retaliates at all before he is completely exonerated and they move forward.
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 3065 replies39 threads Senior Member
    Skepticism of both sides is wise until a proper investigation shows otherwise.
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  • IfYouOnlyKnewIfYouOnlyKnew 404 replies1 threads Member
    @toomanyteens that's horrible. Did he face any discipline for falsely accusing you?
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  • toomanyteenstoomanyteens 1033 replies63 threads Senior Member
    @IfYouOnlyKnew He didn't that I know of -- I am sure he said he really thought it was me or something
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  • IfYouOnlyKnewIfYouOnlyKnew 404 replies1 threads Member
    @toomanyteens I thought you might say that.
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  • lookingforwardlookingforward 34593 replies385 threads Senior Member
    I don't think it advances the thread to seem to accuse a kid of outright lying. One poster, earlier, tried to be diplomatic, just raise the question. We can get all bothered on a thread and sometimes and, I think, forget that the OP isn't helped if he/she is put on the defensive.

    But at the same time, an OP needs to realize how one's own words come across, in writing and on an anonymous forum.

    It may not be enough to jump to our kids' defense. Sometimes, I feel that when someone else calls out our kid's behavior, we should take that hard look. Not to punish, as much as to be aware that, as parents, there may, in fact, be something that needs to be changed. After all, we're trying to "raise them right," into young adults with various skills (and awareness.) Not just keep them officially out of trouble.

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  • MaterSMaterS 1823 replies51 threads Senior Member
    From #4 Any teachers in the area should have made statements before the suspension
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  • philbegasphilbegas 2924 replies73 threads Senior Member
    Aren't there cameras at the school? I feel like footage could be pulled from the events in question. If your son is adamant that he is innocent of certain actions, he could try to prove it that way. However, my gut tells me this isn't the first, or the last time he's going to do this. This comes from a deeper subconscious disrespect for women.
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