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Six dead in Aurora, Ill., workplace shooting

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Replies to: Six dead in Aurora, Ill., workplace shooting

  • MomofWildChildMomofWildChild Registered User Posts: 22,526 Senior Member
    My understanding, as noted previously, is that there was a failure to confiscate his gun. So the authorities messed up there. As far as background checks, most employers will have checks going back about 7 years and will often disqualify a candidate for employment for a violent crime or one involving theft. That said (and I have great experience in this area), the third parties who conduct the background checks for employers are horribly incompetent. For example, they will miss a felony by "Richard Nelson" if the applicant applies as "Rick Nelson".
  • CheddarcheeseMNCheddarcheeseMN Registered User Posts: 3,049 Senior Member
    The Dekalb paper reports that the NIU student was at the termination meeting with the shooter. That seems odd for a first day intern.
  • MomofWildChildMomofWildChild Registered User Posts: 22,526 Senior Member
    That would be horrible HR practice to have a new intern at a termination. I’m wondering if my HR VPs will be more interested in having more security on premises after this....
  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 Registered User Posts: 1,154 Senior Member
    edited February 17
    ^^^Agree, and so tragic. I worked at a fortune 50 company for many years and by the early 90s the policy was to have an armed security guard accompany the employee and HR staff for every termination, at any facility ,whether US or international. After termination, the security guard took the employee to their desk/office to get their things and escorted them to their car.
  • MaineLonghornMaineLonghorn Super Moderator Posts: 37,776 Super Moderator
    I remember being escorted like that when I was laid off in 1990!
  • MomofWildChildMomofWildChild Registered User Posts: 22,526 Senior Member
    edited February 17
    The problem is, just like with this guy, they come back and often the receptionists in the lobby doesn’t know they were terminated or that there is any concern until the bullets start flying. I met a lawyer at a conference who is with the company that had the distribution center shooter in Maryland last September. (It was a female shooter) He said you can’t imagine how awful it really is until it is your co-workers and your company going through it.
  • HImomHImom Registered User Posts: 33,511 Senior Member
    The report I read said the shooter opened fire at the termination meeting. But, yeah, I can see how a disgruntled employee could easily get in by acting like he’s still working at the place he’s worked for 15 years.
  • MomofWildChildMomofWildChild Registered User Posts: 22,526 Senior Member
    That’s right. I didn’t realize he had the gun in the workplace and that he opened fire right after he was terminated.
  • privatebankerprivatebanker Registered User Posts: 3,004 Senior Member
    It is not going to change anything, sadly. But I just wonder if they thought the intern was a strong kid and had him around in case the man got violent. Perhaps the others were afraid and not physically capable to hold him off alone. Good god. I can’t imagine the pain for these poor families. It literally makes me feel a bit scared for our kids as they go out into the world.
  • rosered55rosered55 Registered User Posts: 4,288 Senior Member
    The man who has made crosses for 26,000 victims of tragedies lives very close to Aurora and made crosses for these victims, too. https://www.wisn.com/article/man-whos-made-crosses-after-tragedies-makes-toughest-ones-in-aurora-his-hometown/26373842
  • yourmommayourmomma Registered User Posts: 1,186 Senior Member
    It is not going to change anything, sadly. But I just wonder if they thought the intern was a strong kid and had him around in case the man got violent. Perhaps the others were afraid and not physically capable to hold him off alone. Good god. I can’t imagine the pain for these poor families. It literally makes me feel a bit scared for our kids as they go out into the world.

    Unfortunately, workplace violence during termination isn't unheard of. I had a client years ago who was so afraid, they called the cops when they terminated a particular individual.
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone Registered User Posts: 20,540 Senior Member
    I'm surprised this termination was taking place on a Friday. That wasn't allowed at my company. We needed to term someone on a Friday once (very unique circumstances) and had to get permission from NY Legal to do it. When the supervisor walked the employee to his car, the supervisor was concerned because the car was a mess filled with beer cans and the supervisor was really worried about the guy. I think he checked on him a few times over the weekend.
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