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Understanding U.S Standards ?

InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
Yesterday I started a discussion and was pretty confused ;
Now I wanna ask couple of questions as [ reading couple of blogs confused me a lot , so I will be deciding what's right for me from here ]
1. Is my 90% in Indian C.B.S.E curriculum good, as I saw at lost of blogs saying top universities see how much you challenged yourself at High school. ( I also gave some AP exams like calculus AB,BC and c.s principles and scored 4's and 5's )
2. I also have other achievements but won't list it here like internship at tech companies and IOI medal ... please see the earlier closed thread for that
3. Is getting accepted more important that worrying for financial need if; you apply to need-blind universities like Harvard/MIT [ I was a Stanford fan but I am no more, as its not need blind for International students ] I mean if need blind blind university accepts me they would provide me with financial need, right ?

** Please answer question 1 and 3 probably 2 was for reference



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Replies to: Understanding U.S Standards ?

  • skieuropeskieurope Super Moderator Posts: 41,110 Super Moderator
    edited February 18
    Yesterday I started a discussion
    And it was closed for going around in circles. This thread may have the same result, since I answered the questions you asked here on your other thread. To recap:

    1/ Admissions will view your GPA and course selection within the context of your school and what it offers. They also know that a typical Indian HS does not have the grade inflation of a typical US HS. So while a 90 average would be low for an American applying to a top college, it is on the high end for an Indian HS.

    3/ Getting into a college that you cannot afford is, for all intents, a financial rejection. So you need to find colleges that will meet your financial need. Don't waste time applying to colleges that will not give you aid, like the UCs you mentioned on your other thread. If (and this is a big if), you are among the 2% (or less) of Indian applicants that Harvard/MIT accepts, then, in theory, you should not worry about FA. However, when they say they meet full need, it is by their definition, not yours. So what they think you need may differ from what you or your family thinks you need and will never cover more than one trip per year back home.
    Post edited by skieurope on
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @skieurope sir so you mean getting in these collages is more important and difficult and once accepted the look over my financial needs.
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @skieurope as you said being in top 2% I guess I am as from past 3 years India is only receiving silvers and bronze at IOI. And I don't find anyone who worked at software firm as a child / as per my knowledge , also I read somewhere that Till now 18 students graduated from MIT who belonged to India [ and mostly had a IOL/IMO/IOI medal ] At last what do you think as you are very experienced .
  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 Registered User Posts: 4,578 Senior Member
    Your GPA is fine, as are your achievements. You will need standardized test scores SAT or ACT, plus SAT II subject tests to round out your application.

    Even if your GPA was perfect, you were the 1st place medal winner in all your international competitions, and had a 1600/800/800 on SAT/SATII subject tests, the odds of acceptance at MIT and the like, are still very, very low.

    That's the first hurdle you need to face.....getting in.

    If your family income is very low (which I believe it is from your other post), and your family doesn't have much in terms of assets, a need blind school will probably, repeat, PROBABLY, meet most of your need. As stated above, it's the school's definition though, not yours. You will still have to factor in costs of transportation, health insurance, books, etc.....

    IMO, the best thing you can do is study hard for your standardized tests, practice your english, and look for less competitive schools. Certainly apply to these dream reaches, but understand that even "perfect" applicants are rejected every single year.


  • skieuropeskieurope Super Moderator Posts: 41,110 Super Moderator
    edited February 18
    as you said being in top 2%
    I did not say that. I said 2% are accepted. The may or may not be the 2% with the highest stats. Each of these schools routinely rejects applicants with perfect stats while accepting some with lower stats. Nobody, and I mean nobody, outside admissions can tell you what your chances are. And as @momofsenior1 said, even guessing is pointless without SAT scores.

    One thing I will also say - it is very very rare that an admitted applicant to MIT who has AP scores for Calc would have scored less than a 5.
  • happy1happy1 Forum Champion Parents, Forum Champion Admissions Posts: 23,660 Forum Champion
    -- Nothing, not even being in the top percent or two, can guarantee acceptance into a top US college.

    --IMO being accepted and getting sufficient aid are both hurtles that have to be met as you will not be able to attend without both in place.

    --Therefore, I suggest that you should explore options in your home country as well.
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @momofsenior1 can I cover that other expenses with working [ I dont know much about F1 visa ] In India I worked at Software firms
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @skieurope I barely managed to earn 10000 inr to give those AP also that time I didn't had a phone so learning was not quite good , pretty much I am not giving SAT this year is I am weak in english / I can nail math questions any day as my neighborhood friend is preparing for JEE advanced I know a math of next level [Still help me decide my 2nd SAT subject test as I don't have interest in Bio... neither Physics but love some chemistry that too organic ]
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @happy1 I have an option its's IIIT Hyderabad [ its not IIT and dosen't have too good reputation ] if I don't get admission anywhere then that's only the option left still considerable placements and research are done there . [Still I wont be happy as I dreamt of Harvard and am landing in IIIT ]
  • nomanslandnomansland Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    I don't think you can cover the fees of transportation, insurance, and books all with a job in India.

    My best advice for you would be to take standardized tests and think realistically about your future. I would much rather apply to a less competitive school and get in, while getting a good education and having little debt, compared to having a low chance for an Ivy-league school.
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @nomansland Ok as you guys are saying so I will come here after taking SAT and others // guys please tell me how to prepare for tofel // I guess its TOFEL or TOEFL Who knows :)))
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    Still how much would you guys rate my application of of 10 ?
    without considering SAT now.
  • nomanslandnomansland Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    edited February 18
  • InformaticsInformatics Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    @nomansland sir apart from Standardized test on which part can I work to make it a 8 as [ you guys said no one can guaranty admission]
  • skieuropeskieurope Super Moderator Posts: 41,110 Super Moderator
    without considering SAT now.
    Pointless without that data.
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