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Feds uncover admissions test cheating plot

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  • LittleStitiousLittleStitious 28 replies0 postsRegistered User Junior Member
    The most striking thing to me in the Wall Street Journal article was that the College Board approves 94%! of the requests for accommodations (most of which are for extra time according to the article) Hmmmmmm quite a contrast to the many posts on this board claiming that accommodations are usually denied or hard to get.
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  • Emsmom1Emsmom1 1003 replies74 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited May 24
    @LittleStitious I believe there was a lawsuit that forced them to accept more requests for accommodations. When my daughter attempted to get extra time on the SAT in 2015, she was denied despite having accomodations at school for ADHD and anxiety since she was 8. She also had a full neuropsych evaluation. We appealed but the appeal was denied.
    From an article: " beginning January 1, 2017, the College Board will automatically approve accommodations for the vast majority of students who receive school-based testing accommodations through a formal school-based plan (IEP or 504 Plan for public school students and comparable plans for private school students)" (https://www.applerouth.com/blog/2016/12/15/sweeping-changes-to-sat-and-act-accommodations)
    edited May 24
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  • LittleStitiousLittleStitious 28 replies0 postsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Emsmom1 indeed, but there continue to be many posters on this site that insist accommodations are not abused because they are so hard to get and so frequently denied. That is clearly not the case at present.
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  • Emsmom1Emsmom1 1003 replies74 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    @LittleStitious I agree. Surely there is some mid-point between rejecting accommodations requests for those who actually need them (and have a long, documented history of the need for accommodations) and accepting them from everyone.
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  • epiphanyepiphany 8404 replies170 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    The most striking thing to me in the Wall Street Journal article was that the College Board approves 94%! of the requests for accommodations (most of which are for extra time according to the article) Hmmmmmm quite a contrast to the many posts on this board claiming that accommodations are usually denied or hard to get.
    Hmmmmmmmm. Quite a contrast to the many posts on CC over the years documenting that in the recent past well substantiated diagnoses and histories of accommodation have been ignored by College Board as a matter of routine. There have been justified lawsuits against CB for those denials of legitimate requests. Those lawsuits have resulted in a recent change of practice by CB, probably an over-correction of its previous extreme policy in the other direction. Neither practice by CB is appropriate.
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  • bluebayoubluebayou 26657 replies174 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited May 24
    CB really has no choice, epiphany.

    Once a qualified licensed provider submits a full write up after xx-day evaluation, the schools & CB are in no way capable of disproving the need. Unless the schools & CB want to start their own psych analysis program with their own approved docs, they have to rubber stamp the request.

    All of this was easily foreseen (and predicted by some of us) way back with CB settled the lawsuit.

    edited May 24
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  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone 22423 replies14 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    I think CB is now doing the same as insurance companies when they get a request/claim - deny it first, then if the person appeals, grant the request.

    A friend has had accommodations since K. She recently asked for the accommodations for the GRE and it was denied. Appeal. Approved. She needs not only extra time but a private room.
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  • epiphanyepiphany 8404 replies170 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    CB really has no choice, epiphany.
    They "had no choice" previously, but they violated the law, repeatedly.
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 2811 replies36 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    The current price for accomodations in my town is $2500, but I understand there is some regional variation.
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  • hzhao2004hzhao2004 632 replies2 postsRegistered User Member
    This is so infuriating and frustrating. I guess I will shell out a few thousand dollars to buy a few extra hours for SAT for my kiddo.
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  • menloparkmommenloparkmom 12453 replies537 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited May 26
    "What the College Scandal Shallowfakes Reveal About the Rich"
    New article in Wired magazine today.


    "The parents who paid for Singer’s services inadvertently punched their kids in the guts. The message to their children, as Eileen Kennedy-Moore, a clinical psychologist, told MarketWatch, was “I don’t have faith that you are capable of succeeding based on your own skills and hard work, and I don’t believe you’re strong enough to cope with disappointment.” An ego-stroking deepfake, to the extent that it’s supposed to look real, sends the same demoralizing message."


    "But the new pose of the rich as hard workers is indeed another version of consuming conspicuously. What more spiteful thing for the entitled to do than rob others of even their most earned, try-hard moments … without lifting a finger? Everyone in the scam is set up to protect the leisure, languor, ignorance, and ego of the cosseted student—the coaches, the parents, the bribed officials, the friends who know she doesn’t play sports"


    https://www.wired.com/story/college-scandal-shallowfakes-reveal-about-the-rich/?CNDID=40293494&CNDID=40293494&bxid=MjM5NjgxMTk0NzM5S0&hasha=556a9fdf5300f9ac3a0695ea112a1878&hashb=428201ada833dab4b1c8efe5dde8448bac1cc8c4&mbid=nl_052619_backchannel_list3_p1&source=BACKCHANNEL_NEWSLETTER&utm_brand=wired&utm_mailing=Backchannel NL 052619 Top 50 (1)&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl

    enjoy!
    edited May 26
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  • lookingforwardlookingforward 33097 replies358 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    See. I don't think it's not "capable of succeeding based on your own skills and hard work..."
    I think they specifically wanted their kids into particular reputation colleges.

    So not that OJ couldn't get into Cal State, but that they wanted the USC sort of academic and social school, primarily for the social cachet, fun experience for her, there.

    It's not ordinary parenting,
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  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone 22423 replies14 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    I think they wanted their kids at USC, period. I know a lot of people who want their kids to go to a certain school and they do what they can to make that happen.
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  • menloparkmommenloparkmom 12453 replies537 postsRegistered User Senior Member

    "I know a lot of people who want their kids to go to a certain school and they do what they can to make that happen. "
    short of committing fraud, I hope!
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  • PetraMCPetraMC 711 replies5 postsRegistered User Member
    This is so infuriating and frustrating. I guess I will shell out a few thousand dollars to buy a few extra hours for SAT for my kiddo.

    Remember that it's not just extra money, your kid would have to play along to get a fake diagnosis. Pretend to "be stupid" as Singer said in the court documents.

    Ugh, not even close to worth it in my book.
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 2811 replies36 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    The standards are so vague, I really believe everyone could qualify for a diagnosis now. I have never heard of anyone who asked to be and who was not diagnosed.
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  • 1NJParent1NJParent 1154 replies31 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    If test accommodations, which are meant to be the exception rather than the rule, are widely abused, it makes you wonder what other parts of college admissions are routinely abused. For example, what percentage of college application essays are truly the works of the students?
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  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone 22423 replies14 postsRegistered User Senior Member
    For example, what percentage of college application essays are truly the works of the students?

    My nephew was told at one school that they didn't use essays as part of the application any more because there was so much abuse. However, if the school gets rid of one part of the application, then the other parts become more important. My kids both applied (and attended) schools without an essay as part of the application.
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