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UCSC Engineering Not ABET Cert

mari020509mari020509 1 replies1 threads New Member
Should I be worried that UCSC’s engineering majors except for EE are not ABET accredited? I also got into UC Davis and all of their Eng. majors except for Environmental eng. are ABET certified. My major is computer engineering but I may change it later to computer science.

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  • honeybeedoorshoneybeedoors 75 replies0 threads Junior Member
    My son declined his waitlist admission to UCSC for Computer Science but the lack ABET accreditation did not play a part in his decision. It really depends upon what type of employer you will seek once you graduate. If your prospective employer performs a lot of work for the government and that government requires* ABET accreditation, you may be at a disadvantage. I suspect the vast majority of employers do not work on jobs that require any worker (charging to the project) to have an ABET accredited degree.

    Below is a link to the ABET website. Obviously the organization performing the accreditation will overstate the importance of their own work.
    https://www.abet.org/accreditation/what-is-accreditation/why-abet-accreditation-matters/

    *I am not in the computer science field and therefore can only speculate as to the importance of ABET accreditation in computer science. I am in the engineering/construction/architecture field and when hiring, we are more concerned with the courses taken and the quality of the university than if the university is ABET accredited.
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  • mari020509mari020509 1 replies1 threads New Member
    Thank you for the feedback. Out of curiosity, why did your son decline to UCSC and where did he decide to go?
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  • honeybeedoorshoneybeedoors 75 replies0 threads Junior Member
    @mari020509 There were several reasons, some which just apply to his situation.
    1) He wants to run competitively in school and had discussed this with the UCSC coach. Since he was waitlisted, the coach couldn't hold a spot for him (of the incoming freshman) and that the situation would be reevaluated if he got in off the waitlist. When my son checked back, the coach said there was no spot. At CPP (his current SIR), he knows he has to run a certain time at time trial (there is no time trial at UCSC) to make the cross country team. At UC Davis (recently admitted off waitlist) he could be happy on their club cross country and track team (which travels/competes in a lot of meets).
    2) The vibe he got from the CS department was that you can be very successful if you make the most of your internship opportunities and tie that to your upper division courses. He was worried that course load by itself wasn't necessarily rigorous enough and that you need to tailor your course load toward your first job. At CPP and UC Davis, the course work is more rigorous (look at lower division science, math and/or computer engineering classes).
    3) During the orientation, it was clear that someone had been telling applying students to pick any major, get accepted and switch majors. About 1 in 10 questions were about why can't I switch to computer science, followed by can I switch to computer engineering. Of course computer engineering (and TIM) are open. This brought to head the concern that you don't declare your major until you finish the requirements for the first year...and if you can't get some classes, you can be delayed. So can UCSC actually provide enough classes if 1 in 10 incoming students are trying to declare for computer engineering or TIM or trying to transfer into CS? We don't know the answer to this question; however, a friend (old co-worker) mentioned that he is just hoping to get son to graduate from UCSC (not a CS or STEM major) and that son has switched majors to graduate just because he was having trouble getting his upper division classes for the other major.
    4) Shortage of convenient housing is more of a concern at UCSC than at CPP or UC Davis. My son has a few relatives w/i 10 minutes of CPP should housing become difficult. At UC Davis, he is not concerned because biking to class is a realistic option.
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