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Duke Ranks 7th in US by US News

patriotsfan1patriotsfan1 1033 replies129 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,162 Senior Member
edited October 2013 in Duke University
Tied with MIT and UPenn

Thoughts?
edited October 2013
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  • DukeHopeful18DukeHopeful18 24 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 28 Junior Member
    well-deserved....
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  • TopTierTopTier 2718 replies48 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,766 Senior Member
    I suspect assessing universities in bands might be both easier and actually more helpful than attempting specifically to ascertain if Yale is, for example, marginally better than Columbia. To illustrate and using US News' just-released results:
    Band 1: P, H, Y, C
    Band 2: S, U of C, MIT, Duke Penn
    and so forth

    Furthermore, the many ties tend to created de facto bands.
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  • Jwest22Jwest22 387 replies27 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 414 Member
    I'm not sure I I would place Columbia in the same tier or as you call it "band" as HYP.
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  • KaloramaKalorama 67 replies5 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 72 Junior Member
    Harvard and Stanford are far and away the most comprehensive and high quality centers for education and research in the USA. THey have money, talent, and a wide breadth of academic offerings.....The other top tier universities are really all about the same, with different schools having different strengths. Columbia,for sure, is not in the same league as Harvard or Stanford.
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  • lagunallagunal 577 replies23 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 600 Member
    Top 15 of 3000 schools is still Top .5%.

    Once you get to that level, does it really matter ?

    Any of those schools in the top .5% of nationally ranked schools are still in the top 1% when you add in the best liberal arts, etc.

    At that point, you just find the school that would be the best fit in terms of location, weather, living conditions, etc.
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  • SomeOldGuySomeOldGuy 1971 replies15 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,986 Senior Member
    Harvard and Stanford are far and away the most comprehensive and high quality centers for education and research in the USA.

    On how many different boards were you planning to post this?
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  • am61517am61517 219 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 219 Junior Member
    I hope the young minds reading this are discerning enough to realize the naivet
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  • College YahooCollege Yahoo 175 replies23 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 198 Junior Member
    This is what I stated on Chicago's forum about Kalaroma, who feels the need to trumpet Stanford and Harvard everywhere...

    Kalorama
    Stanford is the school of the future in higher education. Stanford dominates in STEM and, frankily, in the humanities. The university has a sane balance of academic excellence and vibrant student life. Stanford was the main catalyst for the development of an entirely new economy. No US university has had so much impact on society and economic development in such a short time as Stanford. Stanford raises more money than any other university

    Apparently Kalorama is a parent of a Stanford student and feels the need to spend an inordinate amount of time bashing other schools that can't possibly offer as great an education as Stanford, or in his/her case, Harvard. I find it quite pathetic and embarrassing for anyone, especially someone who apparently attended an ivy undergrad and law school, to feel the need to make such statements. I am not a psychoanalyst but I suspect that Kalorama suffers from some sort of psychosis/insecurity complex and feels that the fact that his/her kid studies at Stanford as a way to make his/her life more meaningful or important or validates their existence in society. Bravo, to you! I am sure you have "My Kid goes to Stanford" stickers plastered all over your car...

    Truly sad....
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  • 2prepMom2prepMom 1129 replies11 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,140 Senior Member
    I think Stanford is arguably the best NOW, do not even wait 10 years (and I do not feel psychotic, nor have I or anyone in my family attended, so College Yahoo cannot attack me on those fronts).

    But as much as we talk about "best", the eye of the beholder sees and needs different aspects, and there is thankfully a substantial group of truly awe-inspiring universities and colleges that can be called the best.

    Among the top 10, there are flavors but you're arguing about the difference between sea bass and filet mignon. Favorites, yes; but "better", no.
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  • am61517am61517 219 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 219 Junior Member
    Ironically, what is actually happening is that the professorial and student talent is actually diffusing across more and more universities globally, making it increasingly difficult for a small number of universities to hold a monopoly on the talent. I suspect that we will see an increase in the number of most elite universities and greater parity in the quality of their faculty and student bodies. Where Stanford is likely to continue to have an edge is in those disciplines that directly feed Silicon Valley. However, even in those disciplines, Harvard and MIT, among others, continue to have substantial impact. My hope is that Duke will strengthen its academic base and attractiveness to the very best students sufficiently to become one of those most elite universities. It has some very compelling attributes that suggest the potential is there to achieve the highest levels of excellence.
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  • KaloramaKalorama 67 replies5 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 72 Junior Member
    No need for personal attacks. I have every right to my opinion. You know that Stanford is unqiue among the great American universities. And that all the other top schools would love to be in Stanford's position.
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  • rmldadrmldad 1253 replies48 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,301 Senior Member
    @Kalorama - Yes, you have the right to your opinion. That does not mean that it is always appropriate to express your opinion. Also, others have the right to disagree with your opinion, as well as point out the agenda behind your offering your opinion.

    I agree that Stanford is unique among the great American universities. However, Duke is unique among the great American universities. Also, Harvard is unique among the great American universities. You get my point...

    I doubt that Duke would trade positions with Stanford. Being in North Carolina is part of the fabric of the character of Duke. Stanford has no equivalent to the Marine lab at Beaufort. Stanford's love/hate relationship with Berkeley pales in comparison to Duke's rivalry with Carolina. While Stanford offers proximity to the cutting edge technology of Silicon Valley, Duke offers a more genteel and diverse technology option in Research Triangle Park. Duke has the best Medical center in the state, arguably the entire Southeast US.

    Note that I am not arguing that Stanford would trade positions with Duke. It has its own character embedded in its history, location, alumni and campus.
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  • Jwest22Jwest22 387 replies27 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 414 Member
    alicejohnson, Duke doesn't need to game the rankings. What do you know about Duke? Did/do you even go there? There only needs to be one UChicago. I, as well as other alums, would not like to see Duke as a clone of Chicago. Our national and global footprint is already extensive and 7th is a fine ranking. We don't need to compromise what truly matters in order to crack a higher order of the rankings.
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  • am61517am61517 219 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 219 Junior Member
    "You know that Stanford is unqiue among the great American universities. And that all the other top schools would love to be in Stanford's position."

    Kalorama, you do know that pride goeth before the fall.

    You are entitled to your opinions - but you may want to think them through before you try to present opinion as fact. My guess is that the vast majority of the readers of College Confidential have the discernment to recognize specious representations for what they are. As long as continue to make such comments you will correctly be chastised.
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  • lagunallagunal 577 replies23 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 600 Member
    Kalorama is a graduate of Brown, not Stanford. I don't think it can be "pride" unless you have graduated from that school.
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