right arrow
Examples: Monday, today, last week, Mar 26, 3/26/04

Do I have to decide Duke ED in advance?

Amberlanya HerwanaAmberlanya Herwana 85 replies29 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
I was just wondering: if I literally decide to Early Decision to Duke like a week before the deadline, is that okay?

I just wanted to make sure there weren't any specific forms or anything that need to be filled out like a month before. Please PLEASE let me know asap! Deadline is quickly approaching.

Thank you so much!
Amberlanya.
8 replies
· Reply · Share

Replies to: Do I have to decide Duke ED in advance?

  • DCCAWAMIIAILDCCAWAMIIAIL 124 replies3 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    edited September 16
    Looks like everything is due November 1st - but that means teacher recs and counselor input so make sure they know you are applying somewhere with an early application due date.
    edited September 16
    · Reply · Share
  • socaldad2002socaldad2002 1431 replies29 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Remember that the higher Early Decision acceptance rate of 18% (7.3% Regular Decision) or 882 accepted includes the following "hooked" applicants:

    100+ recruited athletes
    400 "people of color" (URM)
    32 Questbridge students
    52 International students

    584/882 = 66% of ED acceptances had a "hook". A good guess is that if you are an "unhooked" applicant, your chances of getting into Duke ED is around 9%, only slightly better than RD.

    It's not the great benefit that the college tries to sell you or any other applicant.

    · Reply · Share
  • lookingforwardlookingforward 34116 replies377 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Most colleges tell you what you need to supply, right on their web pages.
    · Reply · Share
  • bluedogbluedog 1340 replies2 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 17
    Remember that the higher Early Decision acceptance rate of 18% (7.3% Regular Decision) or 882 accepted includes the following "hooked" applicants:

    100+ recruited athletes
    400 "people of color" (URM)
    32 Questbridge students
    52 International students

    584/882 = 66% of ED acceptances had a "hook". A good guess is that if you are an "unhooked" applicant, your chances of getting into Duke ED is around 9%, only slightly better than RD.

    It's not the great benefit that the college tries to sell you or any other applicant.

    While I agree with your conclusion, the numbers are of course imprecise, particularly because I expect the majority of the 400 minority ED acceptances are for Asian applicants, not URMs. And don't forget legacy/development admits, which are often ED. (Development admits have gone down dramatically, but still exist to an extent. And Legacy applicants are often more qualified on average anyways.)
    edited September 17
    · Reply · Share
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone 22972 replies17 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Athletes aren't all ED because they don't have to be. Many are still making their decisions in Nov and aren't ready to commit
    · Reply · Share
  • socaldad2002socaldad2002 1431 replies29 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 17
    Athletes aren't all ED because they don't have to be. Many are still making their decisions in Nov and aren't ready to commit

    Duke has more than 100 recruited athletes (probably around 160?) but for the ones committed by 12/15 it looks like they account for them in ED acceptance rate per the discussion my D20 and I had with the Dean of Admissions (Mr. Guttentag).

    @bluedog He also used the term "People of Color" being 45% in ED, which I interpret that as Hispanic, African American, American Indian, but not Asian. I could be wrong?

    In addition, I did not factor the legacy/development admits in my simple analysis because there might be overlaps such as a recruited athlete was also a legacy, etc.

    With that said, the one important concept I did not factor in is about 903 ED applicants are "deferred" and get another chance for possible acceptance in RD. Somewhere around 99 applicants in that group ultimately got accepted or 11%.

    So maybe ED gives the "unhooked" applicant a slightly better chance at acceptance than RD when you factor in the deferred aspect but it's nowhere close to the 18% often proudly cited by the university.
    edited September 17
    · Reply · Share
  • Amberlanya HerwanaAmberlanya Herwana 85 replies29 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Thank you!
    · Reply · Share
  • bluedogbluedog 1340 replies2 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @bluedog He also used the term "People of Color" being 45% in ED, which I interpret that as Hispanic, African American, American Indian, but not Asian. I could be wrong?

    Yep, you're wrong. (Which isn't a big deal, but just telling you the truth. :smile: ) This statistic includes those of Asian descent. Again, though, I agree with your conclusions.

    During one Dean Guttentag's visits, we actually walked through a sample application and how they evaluate it. This applicant (with all personally identifiable information scrubbed) was a valedictorian with high SAT scores that ultimately was waitlisted. The conclusion was basically they were a perfectly good candidate and highly qualified, but there simply were other candidates that stood out more. The passions didn't fully come through in the application. This exercise demonstrated the "randomness" of it all, which Guttentag even somewhat acknowledged. It's an art, not a science.
    · Reply · Share
Sign In or Register to comment.

Recent Activity