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D1 Basketball at Emory?

icfireballicfireball 308 replies9 threads Member
edited April 2011 in Emory University
Dear Prospective Students,

My group for BUS 330 (Marketing Management) is working on a project that looks at the possibility of adding a NCAA Division 1 basketball program at Emory. Please take a moment to complete this brief survey -- it should take about 2 minutes to complete.

Follow this link:
[url]https://emory.****/SE/?SID=SV_bNHBPpwh7ZFOHPK[/url]
edited April 2011
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  • TenaciousETenaciousE 152 replies17 threads Junior Member
    Done! I think this is a great idea. D1 at Emory would be sick
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  • TJC747TJC747 424 replies86 threads Member
    I'd go crazy. Of course, I don't see this happening, but PLEASE!

    I'll definitely fill out the survey. For a second IC I thought you were a prospective student asking the question but then I saw your username haha.

    Edit: Just took the survey. Great job! I don't know if Emory could survive in the ACC :( - maybe they could get past Wake? Just the thought...especially around March Madness - I'd go crazy!
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  • begoodpersonbegoodperson 285 replies17 threads Member
    BRah!! This would be crazy! I love this idea. Hopefully they have a D1 team within my 4 years of being there. Please oh please!
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  • Optomistic4IvyOptomistic4Ivy 71 replies13 threads Junior Member
    As an anxious RD applicant, I definitely would have applied ED if they had a D1 bball team.
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  • TJC747TJC747 424 replies86 threads Member
    ^ Not going to lie, that's a pretty bold statement.

    Would Emory be more suited in the ACC or maybe the SEC? Man I really, REALLY want this. Emory was ranked in the top 25 for DIII at one point this year...
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  • Optomistic4IvyOptomistic4Ivy 71 replies13 threads Junior Member
    ^ Geographically they're more suited for the SEC. They could also jump into a conference like the CAA that has VCU (final 4), Georgia State, and others.

    I'm a huge sports fan, so for me sports are important. However, I do really love Emory and everything about it so if I'm accepted, I'm attending. I just feel if Emory had a D1 team, it would have everything I would want in a college and more.
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  • icfireballicfireball 308 replies9 threads Member
    Like pretty much everybody who has poster here, I'd love to see Emory have a D1 basketball team. While this project is just for a marketing class right now, I'm seriously thinking about pursuing this after we're done with it for the class.

    The biggest obstacle will be an NCAA rule that states:
    A member of Division II or Division III may petition to be classified in Division I in any one men's sport, other than football or basketball, and in any one women's sport, other than basketball, and in any single sport in which the only NCAA championships opportunity is the National Collegiate Championship.

    I don't think Emory is willing or interested in going D1 in all of its sports, so the NCAA would have to be lobbied to change this rule.

    In terms of which conference Emory would fit into, I can see arguments for both the SEC an ACC. On the one hand, the SEC tends to be one of the least strong major conferences at basketball, so it may be a good initial fit for the program. On the other hand, with the exception of Vandy, the SEC is made up of all large state schools, which doesn't really fit Emory's profile. In comparison, the ACC has four private schools, and more of the schools have a high quality of academics. Geographically speaking, I think the ACC is just as good a fit as the SEC – Georgia Tech would be cross-town rival, and then Duke, Clemson, UNC, Wake Forest, and Florida State are all within 6 hours (with Clemson being just 2). But getting into a major conference with a newly minted D1 basketball program might be difficult. A mid-major like the Atlantic 10 would probably be a better initial fit.
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  • JoshEmoryJoshEmory 10 replies1 threads New Member
    As a former UNC-Chapel Hill student and a current Emory student, I can tell you a D1 team would do WONDERS for our school. Emory has a great reputation and all the money in the world. We have world class professors and an amazing student body. But why haven't we broken the upper half of the top 20 list in like 10 years? I think it's because of our complete lack of sports and school spirit. A D1 basketball program would give Emory the boost it needs to be a real competitor with schools like Duke.
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  • wthompson11wthompson11 19 replies0 threads New Member
    This would be cool, but stop talking about Emory playing basketball in the ACC or SEC...this would never happen. Those conferences are built on football and would not just add a team for basketball. If somehow Emory became really good at basketball they might could eventually join a conference like the Big East just for basketball, but that would have to be a ways down the road.

    Emory would have to join a really small conference such as the Colonial or Big South conference.
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  • TJC747TJC747 424 replies86 threads Member
    I agree IC, I think Emory would be more suited for ACC (over SEC), but if they were to go DI, it would be with worse off schools (Emory Vs. UNC/Duke, yikes!). Wthompson, they would definitely not be in the Big East, seeing as they would get killed on a nightly basis. And IC, I never knew about that rule. Going DI in every sport would really take a lot, and to be honest I just don't see it happening. So unless an exception would be made, then I can't see it. Although, we did just win 3 conference championships in one weekend a couple of weeks ago, so Emory sports, though DIII, aren't that bad.

    IC, I'd be interested in helping you pursue this goal outside of your business class - feel free to contact me. I'll push hard for Emory DI! So many pros, few cons.
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  • TJC747TJC747 424 replies86 threads Member
    Looking at the Colonial Athletic Association, most of the teams are public and are located in the VA/Maryland area (with the exception of Georgia State and UNC-Wilmington). Still, this could take years to accomplish, and with that exception that IC provided, we tight.
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  • wthompson11wthompson11 19 replies0 threads New Member
    TJC474, I was talking about joining the Big East way down the line.

    Seton Hall and DePaul are in the Big East, they wouldn't do well in the ACC or SEC either. Emory would never be able to join a conference like the ACC for SEC for one sport, but the Big East could eventually be a possibility, although none of this will ever happen.
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  • JoshEmoryJoshEmory 10 replies1 threads New Member
    It's fun to think about, but it's just not in Emory's mission to have good sports. We have over a 4 billion dollar endowment but just no time or money for sports :(.
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  • JASMacJASMac 67 replies7 threads Junior Member
    D 1 basketball is not going to happen and Emory will not be joining the SEC. As for no competitive sports teams, get your heads out of the sand. The emory women's swim team is the d3 NCAA national champion for the second year in a row and the men are third for the second year in a row!
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  • TJC747TJC747 424 replies86 threads Member
    Let's leave it at this: Emory would not be able to get just basketball to be DI (it's illegal under NCAA rules), it would have to get all sports to be DI. That's a huge commitment. There are many pros, but I've also realized there are many cons. JoshEmory is right, it just doesn't fit Emory. The school would turn too much into Vandy/Duke and would lose its uniqueness. If it were to become DI, it would happen after all of us graduate, so we would rarely get to experience it. All in all, Emory is staying DIII for a long time.

    IC tell me if you're still planning on pursuing this.
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  • icfireballicfireball 308 replies9 threads Member
    If Emory were to join the ACC or SEC it would be purely a political move and not an indication of the strength of Emory's program. Emory probably has enough prestige and political capital to maneuver into one of those conferences, but it would take a few years to prove they're not a joke first.

    I agree that it's not feasible (or even necessarily desirable) for Emory to move all of its programs to D1. But if the NCAA could be lobbied to change their rule, this would be plausible.
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  • JASMacJASMac 67 replies7 threads Junior Member
    TJC747 is wrong. The NCAA does not prohibit a university from fielding a sport in DI and having other sports remain D3. Case in point is Johns Hopkins--they field D1 Mens & Womens lacross teams, but all of their other teams compete d3. Hopkins was one of the founding members of the UAA (Emory's Conference) but had to leave when they chose to have the lacross teams compete D1.
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  • TJC747TJC747 424 replies86 threads Member
    JASMac, obviously you haven't read the whole thread...football and basketball are the only sports that a school can make to DI. Hopkins is fine because their lacrosse is DI, not football or basketball. The only way Emory gets a DI basketball team is if all of Emory goes DI (highly unlikely), or the NCAA makes an exception/changes the rules (also unlikely, in my opinion). That doesn't mean I won't try to get this, however.
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  • icfireballicfireball 308 replies9 threads Member
    Piggybacking on what TJ said, here's the quote from the 2010-2011 NCAA Manual that I posted earlier in the thread:
    A member of Division II or Division III may petition to be classified in Division I in any one men's sport, other than football or basketball, and in any one women's sport, other than basketball, and in any single sport in which the only NCAA championships opportunity is the National Collegiate Championship.
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  • massgirl92massgirl92 586 replies117 threads Member
    It's not happening, simply because of that NCAA rule people have noted--no way are they making all of their sports D1.
    If someone is looking for strong athletics at a top academic school, Duke, Vandy, UNC, UMich, Northwestern, Georgetown, BC, Notre Dame, and Stanford are where it's at.
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