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Emory Scholars Update?

englishkid2014englishkid2014 Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
edited January 2014 in Emory University
Does anyone know the date when we should expect to hear back about the Emory Scholars program? I know we apparently find out by the end of January, but does anyone have any additional insight? How many scholars are typically chosen? Is it more competitive this year because of the self-nomination process? Any information would be greatly appreciated!!
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Replies to: Emory Scholars Update?

  • hispanicchickhispanicchick Registered User Posts: 31 Junior Member
    I talked to my admissions counselor in october and she told me they were shooting for January 22nd. But that could have changed by now!
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    I think it will "appear" more competitive. However, you have to keep in mind that self-nomination allows for students who perhaps don't stand out that much to someone other than themselves to apply for it, instead of being backed by counselors. However, the flipside to this is the fact that a counselor nomination can also come down to popularity contests and whether or not the student knows them or has a higher than normal profile (for example, a student that competes in competitions at the international level may not be as well known as say, the student body president or someone like that). Given this, you may be competing against what would otherwise be "hidden gems". My guess is that, in the past, the "top" student at each school was not always the one nominated. Some students are well accomplished and have high stats but fly under the radar (I saw this at my HS and was kind of one of these people).
  • go2momgo2mom Registered User Posts: 421 Member
    Are students notified by email or regular mail? Any news as to the date the finalists will be interviewed on campus?
  • Dad2013Dad2013 Registered User Posts: 451 Member
    In this year, Emory scholar doesn't require a counselor nomination. That's what my daughter followed. She submitted all the requirements in the Emory web site. Should she have requested a counselor nomination ?
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    No, she's self-nominating. If she wanted, she could have gotten a rec. letter from one.
  • matrixsurgeonmatrixsurgeon Registered User Posts: 843 Member
    I think that overall, there will be more competition this year: both statistically and otherwise. The more people that apply, the less percentage they pick. But at the same time, it might even invite people to apply that perhaps were never going to get nominated or people that were too lazy to go through the nomination process but were qualified and decided to apply cause it is easier now to apply. Who knows. All I know is that statistically its harder this year.
  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat Registered User Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    I think students who end up as Scholars are not the ones who are worried about competition. In that sense at least. That's along the same lines as people who could get into Yale or Columbia being worried about getting into a state school's honors program because there were more apps than usual. Quality matters. Not quantity.
    But at the same time, it might even invite people to apply that perhaps were never going to get nominated or people that were too lazy to go through the nomination process but were qualified and decided to apply cause it is easier now to apply.
    This does not describe the typical student who becomes a Scholar.

    It might be "statistically higher" in the sense that more people applied. It's not "statistically higher" in the sense that the people who are actually becoming scholars have higher incoming stats.

    Partial scholarships,on the other hand, is an entirely different deal. I could see them being a lot more competitive. If they're not, it's because of the early deadline for apps.
  • megan702megan702 Registered User Posts: 313 Member
    Wow I don't think I have a chance now haha. And if we don't make semis we have to wait until April to find out admissions decisions. -.- ugh
  • matrixsurgeonmatrixsurgeon Registered User Posts: 843 Member
    I realize that Scholars aren't in the category I mentioned. I simply stated a valid fact in that there is a statistical lower acceptance rate this year than years past. How people take it is up to them. I know that it doesn't mean that the average incoming stats go up or anything. That is just logical and makes sense. I was not trying to say anything to explain how the competition itself would be different this year. Just stating a fact.

    But yea. Being a scholar is pretty much at the same level as getting into Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Harvard, etc.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    I think he negated or defended against the sentiment it because too many people have this notion that a decreasing admissions rate actually means something significant. It usually does not. It usually only means that more people applied (directly proportional to applicants). On the other hand, it would mean something if the school was consciously deciding that it would admit LESS applicants (don't think Emory's Scholars program will do this, and nor will admissions overall. Especially since housing has finally caught up to our increased freshman enrollment sizes as the completion of the new frosh dorm nears), and some do this as they become more confident with their yield numbers. Now one trick that I imagine schools do to make it look as if the extra applicants are indeed more qualified than previous years, is to be kind of slick and use the rising app. numbers as an excuse to select a higher stat. set of students than last year (and they'll just claim that the app. pool was more qualified than ever, but not necessarily. They are likely trying to play up to the idea that more apps. =better quality applicants displaying interest. To keep this illusion alive, you simply cherrypick higher stats than the previous year with some confidence that a decent amount of them will yield whether its a top choice or not, primarily because the other schools are extremely selective as well and many of them are selective far beyond the stat "cherrypicking" phase ). Schools who do this "admit extremely high" scheme usually see bigger falls in say the stat. that is the bottom quartile than schools that admit "on target" (this is what Emory has done so far. Don't know about this year, but I doubt it'll differ too much). So while a normal non-Ivy (specially the very top ones that have very high yield) elite will slide like 30-40 points when enrolled students are compared to admits, these schools can fall somewhere between 70-100. The scheme works up to a certain point (as in stats. of enrolled students kind of levels off even if you keep admitting higher and higher each year).

    I'm just saying that regardless of the "fact" of decrease admit rate, a larger app. pool (and thus a lower admit rate) at a school like Emory that has yet to join the "cherrypickers" (perhaps it should) pack means little about an individual's chances (and too much talk or emphasis on the increased volume of applicants will perhaps mislead many into believing that it does). And too many people get scared when they see higher app. numbers (they go like: "It'll be harder for me to get in this year"). This applies for many places, but usually not Emory or even some of the very top schools whose stats. have actually leveled off by quite a bit. I mean, no one can truly claim that Harvard students are getting much better stat (or EC) wise each year (they've essentially determined the caliber and type of student body it likes, and it isn't rapidly changing or anything. It's one of those places that now has several non-Ivies look the same stats-wise/on paper, but is ultimately a whole different animal in reality) Chicago's stats. did not move that much after its app. numbers skyrocketed, so it really isn't on a cherrypicking scheme either, nor was it ever in comparison to many other places (very similar to Harvard in this respect).
  • db84n6db84n6 Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
    Do they notify everyone who applied to scholars whether or not they've been accepted to the school even if they don't make semis at the end of January?
  • megan702megan702 Registered User Posts: 313 Member
    @db84n6 no if you don't make semis you won't know about your admissions decisions until April 1 since you applied RD
  • murphy1008murphy1008 Registered User Posts: 62 Junior Member
    Does anyone know if Emory will notify you if you are not considered for the Emory Scholars program?
  • jkim27jkim27 Registered User Posts: 33 Junior Member

    megan702 already answered your question: "no if you don't make semis you won't know about your admissions decisions until April 1 since you applied RD." So no, Emory will not notify you at the end of January if you didn't make it into semis for Emory Scholars... I believe all it means is that you just become an ordinary RD applicant from that point.
  • college444lifecollege444life Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
    I'm a ED1 accepted applicant who also applied to Emory Scholars...will we be notified via OPUS?
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