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All prospective students please read

ActualStudentActualStudent Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
I just found this website today and after reading some of the posts am very disturbed by the posts of the user "bernie". It is clear that he is pushing extremely false information at times and it seems that he may actually work for admissions or if he/she is a student than it at least receiving kickbacks. This is also evidenced by how many posts he/she has and how long they are.

Real info:
-Emory has no school spirit or sports scene. Just a fact of life. No one cares about the athletics here, even though they are consistently national champion quality teams at the DIII level.
-Emory is shutting down Greek life hard.
-Still a good party scene here, would say most students here go harder than other schools. It will just be moving more and more off campus in the coming years.
-Freshman year you will likely hit frat row and this one bar close to campus.
-Classes are not that hard, I guess it depends on what major but I do not really try all that hard and do fine.
-Real lack of quality professors, a ton of huge lectures for a school this size, lots of professors who can barely speak English.
-Clairmont Campus is not a great place to live and everyone moves off campus after sophomore year unless you are in Greek housing. Freshman dorms are dope though they have been built within the last five years and by next year will all be complete finally.

You're welcome.

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Replies to: All prospective students please read

  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    I believe you. I take your word for it.....that was totally my experience. I must have lied or was in denial (yeah, I must have been sleeping in Callaway and didn't notice that the small classroom I was in actually had 200 seats in them lol. My freshman seminar class had 150 and not 20. Freshman ochem had 300, not 50....biology had 300, not 50-100. I just made those enrollment numbers up. Me and OPUS conspired together). My bad. I apologize sincerely lol. I also never say anything bad about Emory, and you know, the admissions office does that all of the time haha. The admissions office can also tell you about how easy or difficult (and even how stupid certain courses are) certain instructors are and the nature of their grading curves :) . That's me, I work for admissions.


    And your 6th point is mathematically incorrect. By that logic, C-mont would be vacant and I remember living there (again, maybe I was intoxicated or something....don't quite remember. Perhaps I should consult my roommates to confirm that we lived there :p . I actually didn't like it and found it isolating and boring, and really desired main campus, but anywho...I was definitely there). This is just embarrassing. I thought we had a quantitative reasoning GER along with many others. Nice try ****.
  • aigiqinfaigiqinf Registered User Posts: 4,032 Senior Member
    I believe you. I take your word for it.....that was totally my experience. I must have lied or was in denial (yeah, I must have been sleeping in Callaway and didn't notice that the small classroom I was in actually had 200 seats in them lol). My bad. I apologize sincerely lol. I also never say anything bad about Emory, and you know, the admissions office does that all of the time haha.

    lol At least we've avoided that "I hate Oxford" **** who used to show up under a different username every two months...
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    @aigiqinf‌ lol, that one is a timeless classic...tell folks to come visit me over in the offices on Oxford Road if anyone needs help with course selection aig....I promise them that with our expertise on such matters, they could never go wrong. Or I could at least guarantee that it would be better than the pre-health mentoring office (you know, "those other folks" right across from us haha) to cover my behind and set the bar low in case I screw up lol.

    BTW: For those who wonder how we fit all 300 people in biology when we don't have an auditorium to handle that.....we just hold classes on the hill in Lullwater and sometimes we hold them in Glenn Memorial for a change of scenery. I mean, just ask anyone who took biology or any large lecture, they'll know what I am talking about. Sometimes Lullwater was very cold in the fall semester which is why I didn't do so hot in biology 141.
  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat Registered User Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    Hey guys. Is this where the party's at?
  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat Registered User Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    I can be an Oxford ****. Do we need one right now?
  • ActualStudentActualStudent Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    For too long the students on here have gotten a false view of Emory from admissions shills like bernie. I have come to give a real student's perspective - not the view of an admissions work study kid.

    Thanks for reminding me of another point I neglected in my top post. Never go to Oxford. Choose any school over it, even if you are desperate to graduate from Emory go elsewhere and then transfer in.
  • ActualStudentActualStudent Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    Prospective students need to realize - do you trust someone who spends countless days and hours posting about how great Emory is on here? Beware of the bias.... Sorry bernie but you have gone on for too long, I hate to be the one to expose you but it must be done.
  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat Registered User Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    Ooh. **** just got real. Whatcha gonna do, Bernie?
  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat Registered User Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    Oxford sucks. Everyone there does hardcore drugs and there's so much drama and everyone is weird.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    @aluminum_boat‌ I agree with both of you 100% lol. Maybe I went to Oxford too, I'm weird! Not down for the hardcore drugs though (I don't really care for drama either but whatever), I keep it simple :) . Also, screw those Oxford students for bringing down our rank. Their SAT scores are holding Emory back from eminence, so I feel you aluminum! And screw the administration for hurting Greeklife (because I really know or care about Greeklife. Enough to comment on it...I care so much lol). Yeah, and school spirit, it sucks (because I care...and discuss it a lot), you don't have to lie. Everyone knows we have the best school pool pride and that we're all about people loving those D-3 sports! I've said it several times....we all know our history and mathematics.....you know that C-mont is empty and all (so empty that we kicked the grad. students out in 2010). Me and aluminum are well aware of how unpopular it is (he may or may not have lived there as well, but I think he was literally the only one living there....he'll have to confirm it, I'm not sure). Hell, he's a math major and can calculate exactly how empty it is and he can also calculate how many spots in the rankings Oxford brings us down if you would like. That's not too much responsibility is it aluminum? You can handle that and I'll keep using the admissions magic that has been failing to get us better students for years (as in, admissions schemes that fail to deny students like our fellow **** who can only make stuff up or parrot to us about what everyone already knows. Also those who clearly don't take their quantitative reasoning GER more seriously to learn how to do simple accounting. Might be one of the average caliber b-school students. Can't be one of the good ones with math like that).....I'll also hold on to this data about good course instructors and grading curves so that prospective students can come visit me over in the admissions building or on a tour and get the information. What is my office number again........you remember it right? I forgot it just like I forgot about living at Clairmont (okay, I would kind of like to forget at least senior year there, it was kinda boring, but junior year was fun!).


    Your turn aluminum: Please describe aig's Oxford experience. We must hear about the truth of Emory right? You are our Oxford representative. Let's hear more. I'm sure the OP is dying to engage. Let's keep this wit, I mean "truth" fest going!
  • aluminum_boataluminum_boat Registered User Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    Aig thinks his Oxford experience was good, but it was pretty terrible. I mean, it didn't prepare him for the real world at all. Therefore, he is getting a ph.d next year --- he's too nerdy to get an actual job at a big4 like the rest of us did. I mean, who cares if his PhD program is top 5 for his field. He's not working for Deloitte or PWC making 70k off of 65+hour weeks.


    On a more serious note: Oxford is NOT factored into our rankings. It does not bring our ranking down.

    Real info:
    -Emory has no school spirit or sports scene. Just a fact of life. No one cares about the athletics here, even though they are consistently national champion quality teams at the DIII level.
    -Emory is shutting down Greek life hard.


    -Freshman year you will likely hit frat row and this one bar close to campus.
    -Classes are not that hard, I guess it depends on what major but I do not really try all that hard and do fine.
    -Real lack of quality professors, a ton of huge lectures for a school this size, lots of professors who can barely speak English.
    -Clairmont Campus is not a great place to live and everyone moves off campus after sophomore year unless you are in Greek housing. Freshman dorms are dope though they have been built within the last five years and by next year will all be complete finally.
    1. If you chose Emory for sports, you're an idiot.
    2. Yea. Well, that's what happens when you're under national scrutiny for rape.
    3. You can find classes that are easy, medium, or hard difficulty. Same as any other school.
    4. I've had some great professors and some terrible ones. It's up to you to find good ones and take them. But, some of the better professors are hard. So, if you're only taking easy classes, no surprise you haven't had many good professors. Also, I have not had problems with class size.
    5. Clairmont is fine. Off campus is cheaper and fine too. Not sure what the argument is here.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    @aluminum_boat‌ : Isn't one issue that not everyone can even fit on campus anymore (thank you enrollment growth/management folks)? So even people who want it may have a difficult time getting it. I remember being waitlisted both sophomore and junior year. I was waitlisted for my Woodruff request and I got waitlisted for my first C-mont request. I knew it wouldn't end up being a problem because I am a financial aid charity case lol. If they locked me out of housing, they would probably have to find some way to pay for off campus housing which is fine I guess. Though at last minute could be horrible and competitive. I think Emory has fairly nice housing (at all levels) compared to most selective privates (or schools in general). I think others have invested in it over time, but Emory was ahead of the curve when you think of the comparatively ranked ones especially. Lately, they just haven't kept up with enrollment.

    I don't know about all of that other stuff they mention. That's their life I guess (except for the sports thing, but most people who go to a DIII school just get over it). I wasn't in easy/humdrum classes and didn't take sucky/average instructors for the most part. If that's what that person likes, good for them. They say that they are doing fine, so it's all good. I wouldn't take mostly boring/easy, and poorly taught courses, but that's just me...I generally advise against taking a schedule that is mostly this, but I can't help if that's what people want or if they don't care enough to make a better schedule or simply care enough about their academic/intellectual development. I can't make people take academics seriously when Greek life, sports, and housing is so important to them. It seems like course and instructor selection is almost random or purely GPA centric for such folks anyway, in which case it doesn't matter if the instructor can speak English or at all (instructor can be mute and flash powerpoint slides and I'm sure some students would be okay as long as assignments and exams were easy lol. We have a few individuals who are so poor intellectually and professionally as to have those sorts of expectations or even seek these folks out) so as long as it is easy to do well without much effort.

    I mean really, we take between 30-50 courses throughout our career on average. How hard is it to make at least like 20-30 of the courses good and maybe 10-15 of them challenging (okay, Emory is kind of pre-professional, so let's lower the bar to 3-5 challenging courses because we can't afford much more)? From my experience, not that hard, but I guess it is for many people. I don't know why, but why bother asking? I just don't feel bad for people who screw that part up.
  • ActualStudentActualStudent Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    No one chose Emory for sports. My post serves as a warning for those who want to actually know what to expect from Emory from a perspective of someone that doesn't spend 100% of their life in their room at Clairmont or the library.

    Also make a post that is easier to read that half-coherent rambling coked out paragraphs from bernie.
  • whenhenwhenhen Registered User Posts: 5,638 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    What do you define as school spirit?
    -Freshman year you will likely hit frat row and this one bar close to campus.
    That's how it is at most non liberal arts colleges. Freshmen can't legally drink and they don't have many upperclassmen friends so they're almost forced to go to open frat parties or bars which barely check IDs if they want to let loose on the weekend.
    -Real lack of quality professors, a ton of huge lectures for a school this size, lots of professors who can barely speak English.
    The percent of large lecture classes at Emory (>50 people) is actually smaller than most national universities.
  • bernie12bernie12 Registered User Posts: 5,293 Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    @whenhen‌ : For your class size point, I like this thing that I call data lol. Here, WashU is similar size (overall, distribution is much different). Since I am mainly only interested in science courses, take a look at their introductory chemistry courses: https://courses.wustl.edu/Semester/Listing.aspx
    I am sure that unless OPUS numbers are a fabrication (as those who watch Fox News may claim about job numbers lol), then Emory introductory (or any) courses never really hit 300+...Then the same things happen for biology and the other introductory courses. To be fair, let's weight this....the college has like 6k UG students at any given time (accounting for b-school ex flux and Oxford/transfer influx). WashU has 3700 UG students in the college and about 1300 in engineering. These 2 UG entities will contribute the most to introductory science courses and their total is 5k UG's. Please explain why Emory's enrollment in these courses (except physics 141/142, which even then has smaller section sizes than most similar sized universities) is like 1/4-1/2 times the size of theirs? This applies to several other national universities that are similar size as well. If you couldn't find smaller than normal class sizes, I really don't feel that bad. I found them. I guess some people just don't try. Okay, let's just admit it, they don't care. Again, course selection is kind of random and is just a series of requirements. Not much thought beyond projected ease goes into it. While I don't blame a person paying so much to, in an ideal world, expect excellence no matter how they select courses (even if they don't even care), I do blame them for the naivete of thinking that we are in an ideal situation/world, and acting as if Emory is some exception to the rule among research universities of similar size. Reality check, you're doing highered at a research institution, get over it ****. I wish top universities and my whole life were perfect too, but it isn't going to happen.
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