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Overlap between automatic merit scholarships and solid engineering

Mama212529Mama212529 5 replies4 threadsRegistered User New Member
I've been reading some threads on schools that offer automatic merit scholarships based on ACT/SAT and GPA. I hoped people could offer advice on how solid the engineering programs are at those schools. They all come up as having an ABET-accredited program, but I'd like a better sense of their reputation for graduating capable engineers. The ones I see come up as having at least some auto-merit include:
Alabama (Tuscaloosa)
Alabama (Huntsville)
Auburn* (not really automatic but seems similar to Alabama standards)
Kentucky
New Mexico
Arizona
Arizona State
Delaware
LSU
Tennessee
Howard
Missouri
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  • treschicostreschicos 227 replies21 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Iowa State
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  • treschicostreschicos 227 replies21 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    Also Colorado State and New Mexico Tech. Maybe a small amount from Colorado School of Mines
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  • SybyllaSybylla 3818 replies48 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    What ACT/GPA numbers?
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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 917 replies12 threadsRegistered User Member
    For at least a general sense, have you looked at the USNews undergrad Engineering rankings? Folks often quibble with them, but they are certainly directionally correct,

    From our search a few years ago, Ohio State had good OOS scholarships based on ACT/GPA and is a very solid engineering program.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 78242 replies690 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Be careful, some automatic scholarships are no longer listed on the college web sites, or have been changed to be smaller or competitive.

    Any ABET accredited engineering program will be good for preparing the graduate for that type of engineering. However, some may be better or worse fits for the student, in terms of things like curricular organization, in-major electives, out-of-major electives and general education requirements, etc..
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 4240 replies17 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    An abet school will get you a degree that should lead to a job. But if your asking if a school like Michigan is the same as Alabama in engineering, I would say no. You just can't compare the facilities, faculty and research expenditure and Alumni.
    Just to compare I look at mechanical engineering at both and non scientifically look at the first 5 professors in alphabetical order. Michigan's faculty were from like MIT, Cal tech and Harvard.
    Also look at publications and the research their doing BUT.....
    If cost is an issue then go to the school that costs the least but has the best fit etc for you. If your goal is to become an engineer then do that.
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  • Mama212529Mama212529 5 replies4 threadsRegistered User New Member
    Thanks! Lots of good advice here. Yes, I suspect we might sacrifice something by paying less, but with three kids to put through college (that's the 212529 in my name), we do need to be cost-sensitive. The US News engineering ranking helps to get a ballpark, so I appreciate that lead. I'll look into the other schools mentioned on this thread too, so thanks for the help.
    Howard 148
    Alabama 124
    Alabama Huntsville 118
    LSU 106
    Missouri 95
    Kentucky 95
    New Mexico 85
    Auburn 69
    Arizona 64
    Tennessee 58
    Delaware 47
    Arizona State 44
    Several of these schools let you put stats into their website calculators and see what scholarships are triggered.
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  • powercropperpowercropper 1664 replies71 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 8
    UA Huntsville campus is physically situated in a large research park. Co ops and internships are abundant. College Job Fair every fall and spring.

    Huntsville's economy is growing at a rapid pace. In 5 years they are set to be the largest city in Alabama. Already the dining and entertainment venues are popping up quickly. And check out UAH website for plans to build a new anchor of housing, dining, retail shops and office space on UAH campus. Giving the campus a more college town feel.

    My son is a freshman engineering student. We are very happy with the quirky student vibe, the full tuition scholarship, and the private bedroom in a 4 person suite with 2 bathrooms, mini kitchen and common area.

    Feel free to ask questions or PM me to learn more about our UAH experience.
    edited September 8
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  • threeofthreethreeofthree 1035 replies40 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 8
    You may find it helpful to look at the employees listed on career fairs. Typically, the larger engineering schools have 1 to 2 carrer fairs in the fall and spring semesters. Look for the number of big name companies.
    edited September 8
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 4240 replies17 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    The big name companies don't really matter. Few will get a job with Amazon, Google etc. It's going to be the no name companies that you most likely will get a job at. A patient of mine works in manufacturing and is starting to use robots with AI to sadly replace workers for repetition work. They are either owned by Toyota or their major supplier. He said they "need" engineers like now. They can't get enough qualified people. He said lots of them make "6"figures. That sounds good to me.
    Also another patients daughter just graduated from Alabama. Loved it and her first job is with Tesla. I think their doing fine.
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  • NJEngineerDadNJEngineerDad 120 replies1 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @Mama212529 the rankings you posted are for the grad school engineering programs rather than for the undergraduate engineering programs. At the undergraduate level, the US New engineering program rankings are:
    Howard 132
    Alabama 87
    Alabama Huntsville 116
    LSU 104
    Missouri 104
    Kentucky 87
    New Mexico 87
    Auburn 59
    Arizona 55
    Tennessee 59
    Delaware 55
    Arizona State 38
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  • NJEngineerDadNJEngineerDad 120 replies1 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    If your kids are top students, knowing the rating of the associated Honors Colleges might be useful too. I suggest you look at "Inside Honors 2018-2019: Ratings and Reviews of 50 Public University Honors Programs" by John Willingham.
    Howard N/A
    Alabama reviewed but unrated in 2018-2019 edition
    Alabama Huntsville N/A
    LSU 4.5/5
    Missouri 3.5/5
    Kentucky reviewed but unrated in 2018-2019 edition
    New Mexico 4/5
    Auburn 3.5/5
    Arizona 4/5
    Tennessee N/A
    Delaware 4.5/5
    Arizona State 5/5
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  • BingeWatcherBingeWatcher 907 replies7 threadsRegistered User Member
    I wonder if the goal is to end up living in the PWN, but must chase huge merit, is one hampered by attending school far way from PWN. Say going to school at BAMA major in electrical engineering but wants to end up in Seattle area. Any thoughts?
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  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 7273 replies56 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    For big engineering schools, like BAMA, companies from all over the country come to recruit on campus and many companies now pay for housing for their interns and co-ops. I really don't think there is any disadvantage.
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 4240 replies17 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @BingeWatcher help me out here Pwn?
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  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 7273 replies56 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @Knowsstuff I read that as Pacific Northwest
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 4240 replies17 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @momofsenior1.. Thx. I looked it up and it didn't make any sense to me.
    OK, I gotta get off CC for a while.. Weeds needs to be pulled.
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  • eyemgheyemgh 5590 replies122 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Recruiting, even at the biggest name schools, is largely regional. Yes, big companies will reach across the country and most have pet schools probably based on confirmation bias from previous experience. Small companies however will hover close to schools in their region.

    That doesn't mean a student can't land interviews and ultimately jobs at companies that don't recruit their job fairs. They absolutely can. It's just more of an uphill battle. At the end of the day, landing a job, assuming one has a good academic record and good hands on experience, involves a bit of luck. Networking is hugely beneficial as referred candidates get hired at a much higher rate than blind applicants.

    Certainly, a Mizzou grad with stellar grades, solid hands on experience and good recommendations will probably have more opportunity than a C student from MIT who has nothing else on their resume.

    What's your home state and what's the maximum yearly budget for this child?
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  • BingeWatcherBingeWatcher 907 replies7 threadsRegistered User Member
    @Knowsstuff , I have PWN the SAT on the brain as D is prepping for PSAT for NMF. I have on the the PWN books right next to me.....Sorry I meant PNW....
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