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Is this a lot in student loans?


Replies to: Is this a lot in student loans?

  • 3js3ks3js3ks Registered User Posts: 58 Junior Member
    Your plan seems a little "off course" for your actual goal. What degree are you getting your bachelor's in currently? I work in a hospital as a RN. The nurse assistants don't all have certifications before getting hired. I guess not all hospitals in my area have the same requirements, though (I also live in MI). I don't think I would go through an LPN program to get your clinical pt care hours, there should be a quicker way for you to do what you need to do. Have you talked to an advisor at your college? LPNs are generally only hired at nursing homes, and that work is specialized and not for everyone.
  • WISdad23WISdad23 Registered User Posts: 816 Member
    You should forge ahead to the PA program. The longer you put it of, the less likely it is to happen. Also, it is not a good idea to take on debt toward a higher paying job, but then use a low paying job to pay down debt while deferring training for the higher paying job - huge opportunity costs there.

    If you want to be a PA, get training to be a PA through the most direct pathway. Spending time and money on intermediate work/training is an expensive diversion. I have seen many people go that route and never get their heads above water to finish the training.
  • scmom12scmom12 Registered User Posts: 2,728 Senior Member
    So you will be a junior next year? Why can't you work on contact hours while in school and this summer. It's likely you school has some type of pre-med advisement/group that could help you get contact hours since you fall into that category. Some of above suggestions are good plus volunteering at free clinics (around here they allow you do be more involved that other environments since often shorthanded), public health volunteering, etc. There's no downside to applying straight after undergrad - if they tell you that you need more contact hours, then go to plan B but there are lots of different schools out there.
  • Devin2019Devin2019 Registered User Posts: 31 Junior Member
    @WISdad23 @scmom12 Well guys, I only have two years left. I do not believe I would be able to get an adequate amount of health care hours in two years. I thought PA schools don't accept volunteering experience. Do you think it would be a good idea to take a year off from school to spend some time maybe getting a certificate as a CNA or Phlebotomist and work for a year, then go back to school for two years and continue working as that then applying for PA school once I earn my degree? I ask this because I believe I would be able to put in more health care hours this way.
  • SybyllaSybylla Registered User Posts: 1,570 Senior Member
    edited June 18
    Can you work a PT (=contact hours) job and use all semesters at less credits instead of actually stopping for a year? What are the MA reqs in your state? What is your undergrad?
  • Jamrock411Jamrock411 Registered User Posts: 444 Member
    Devin2019 wrote:
    I just need to vent my feelings. I just feel so hopeless. I would really appreciate it if you take the time to read this. I'm going into my third year of college, and so far I haven't been doing very well. I am majoring in Biology with intentions of becoming a Physician Assistant. I have been doing poorly in pretty much all my science classes. So far I have received two C's in my Biology courses, two C's in my math courses, and a D in General Chemistry. So far, I will definitely have to retake two of my sciences since they are the prerequisites for PA school, and most schools require that you have a B or higher in the prerequisite courses. I just don't how I'm going to make it to PA school or even get through it if I am having such a hard time in my undergraduate science courses.
    So far my overall GPA is a 3.0. My science GPA is a 2.5.


    @Devin2019: Is it your performance in your science classes that is triggering these alternative pathways?
    Clinical Experience / Health Care Hours
    Clinical Experience / Health Care Hours is preferred but not required for applicants. Preference will be given to candidates with direct patient care experiences, particularly those working as nurses or corpsman with higher levels of patient interaction and medical decision-making. Preference will also be given to candidates who have completed greater numbers of hours of experience. Clinical Experience / Health Care Hours obtained outside of the United States health care system will not be considered.

    Clinical Experience / Health Care Hours are defined as any of the following: time spent directly participating in hands-on patient care, directly observing interaction between health care providers and patients or health care-related interactions with providers. Clinical Experience / Health Care Hours can occur in a volunteer (including student internships) or a paid position in a wide range of health care settings. Hands-on or direct patient care experience is not required by the EMU PA program.
    For your reference, we have compiled the following list of examples of approved and disapproved experiences:
    Approved experiences include, but are not limited to:
    EMU PA Program Auscultation
    Athletic trainer
    Chiropractor assistant
    Clinical laboratory technician
    Dental assistant
    Dental hygienist
    Emergency medical technician
    Emergency room technician
    Exercise stress test technician
    Laboratory technologist (medical lab tests)
    Medical assistant
    Medical interpreter
    Medical scribe
    Mental health therapist
    Military medical/clinical specialist
    Nursing assistant or aide
    Occupational therapist
    Occupational therapy assistant
    Ophthalmic/optometrist assistant
    Patient care technician
    Pharmaceutical or medical device representative
    Pharmacy technician
    Physical therapist
    Physical therapy assistant
    Radiological technician/technologist
    Researcher or research assistant (Must involve direct patient interaction involving healthcare issues, such as discussing medication doses and side effects.)
    Respiratory therapist
    Social Work - clinical focus
    Surgical technician
    Shadowing a PA or MD/DO
    Veterinary technician or assistant
  • Devin2019Devin2019 Registered User Posts: 31 Junior Member
    @Sybylla The drawbacks with that is I receive less financial aid if I am not a full time student. And I feel like that would prolong getting my degree even more by taking less classes each semester, instead of being a full time student. I think taking a year off and using that extra year to work and gain health care hours would be a better option.
  • Devin2019Devin2019 Registered User Posts: 31 Junior Member
    @Jamrock411 Yes, because I haven't been doing so well in my science classes, I have thought about other options, but I am still set on becoming a PA. I just believe I need to develop better study habits and realize that my major classes are going to be harder than my general education classes and thus need to spend more time and effort for my major classes. I have looked at Eastern Michigan's PA information, and it's definitely an option, but not every school is that lenient. Many schools do require health care experience, it's not a preference and some schools don't even accept half of what Eastern Michigan accepts as health care hours. I want to apply to more than one school, I don't just want to be fixated on one school because it's not a guarantee that I'm going to be accepted at that school.
  • mommdcmommdc Registered User Posts: 9,169 Senior Member
    Riteaid and CVS train their technicians. Maybe look for a job there?
  • scmom12scmom12 Registered User Posts: 2,728 Senior Member
    My SIL's niece became an EMT and did that for a year or so before PA school. I suggest you actually visit/talk to PA programs and see what specific ones require. For my kids friends in med school, volunteer hours at things like the Free Clinic seemed to count.
  • Sportsman88Sportsman88 Registered User Posts: 1,579 Senior Member
    You need to double check the volunteer part. That doesn't add up based on other medical programs. And EMT makes far more sense for paid route.
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