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General Advice on Foreign Schools.

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  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike 11870 replies94 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 11,964 Senior Member
    Assuming you manage to get a residency position.
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  • marcNHSmarcNHS 133 replies14 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 147 Junior Member
    If you are thinking about a country to go study in, you can check out this AMA website to see which country many IMGs come from

    AMA (IMG) IMGs by country
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  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike 11870 replies94 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 11,964 Senior Member
    To reemphasize -- going to a foreign medical school is a fine option if you are actually FROM the country in question. If you live in Pakistan, have gone to high school in Pakistan, then Aga Khan is a great school. If you live in Cuba, then a Cuban medical school is a great option.

    Americans should go to medical school in America. Residency match rates and USMLE pass rates both bear this out.
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  • photonphoton 11 replies2 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 13 New Member
    While i was reading the entrance requirement for university, i chanced upon the term "AS level".
    Can someone explains what does AS level means?

    Thanks!
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  • cupcakecupcake 1688 replies15 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,703 Senior Member
    While i was reading the entrance requirement for university, i chanced upon the term "AS level".
    Can someone explains what does AS level means?
    Unless there is more than one meaning, AS levels are part of a school qualification in the UK (excluding Scotland where it is different). In the final 2 years of school here students study for A-levels, which are the grades they need to get into university. If you complete the firstyear (age 16-17. UK school year 12, US grade 11) you get an AS level. if you complete the second year (age 17-18, UK school year 13, US grade 12), known as A2, you get an A-level. Some other countries such as Singapore and Pakistan based their school systems on the UK, and also have thinsg called A-levels. But they are not exactly the same as the UK/ I don't know if these countries also have AS-levels, but they might do.

    In any case, unless you are at high school in the UK, AS levels mean nothing to you so don't worry about them.
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  • secretchordssecretchords 47 replies25 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 72 Junior Member
    In response to the original question, I have heard many negative things about those who have studied outside the US returning. If you have completely finished your medical education outside of the country, many hospital policies have regulations that will ALWAYS show preference to those who have studied within the country.

    However, I am not sure whether this applies even if the doctor has completed a residency in the US.
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  • alechigginzalechigginz 5 replies8 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 13 New Member
    I am currently a junior in high school in the United States. I would love to be able to go to college in Spain. Is it possible for me to apply directly to a school in Spain and get my medical degree there? Would I be able to practice in the United States? Would I need an IB diploma?
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  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike 11870 replies94 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 11,964 Senior Member
    Would I be able to practice in the United States?
    No, not without a lot of effort. You'd have to take the US board exams, and only about 60% of internationals will pass. You'd then have to try to match into a US residency, and that has about a 50% success rate.

    THEN you'd be permitted to practice in the US.
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  • hopingdadhopingdad 144 replies1 discussionsUser Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 145 Junior Member
    hi123-i know a guy who finished undergrad in us and couldn't secure a place in us medical schools. so he enrolled in a regional/provincial med school in korea, came back to the states after graduating the med school in korea, apparently finished the board exam and residency here. he works as a specialist making a good living. in fact his living standard is no comparison to mine who has phd degree from a top us schools. this guy knows through his father how to work through the us systems. i see so many medical doctors educated in china or india. it really doesn't seem to be necessary to go through the tough us med school system if you know the way.
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  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike 11870 replies94 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 11,964 Senior Member
    Nobody has said it's impossible; what we've consistently maintained is that the odds are very, very bad. These statistics are publicly available from the NRMP, and they show that about half of foreign docs can't manage to pass the boards. Of those who try to match (who have already passed the boards), about half of them won't match into a residency.

    That still means a lot of them do, but the odds are very bad.
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  • Namita.royNamita.roy 1 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1 New Member
    Check all guidelines & details of B-school at
    American School of Bombay: Welcome
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  • tonk907tonk907 82 replies13 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 95 Junior Member
    What I've heard is that it is very difficult to get a license in the United States if you trained abroad. This is especially true in Texas, where it is already competitive. So, by training out of the country, you are definitely limiting yourself in terms of wanting to come back to the States.
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  • moonstarmoonstar 194 replies37 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 231 Junior Member
    so if i wanted to apply to a med school in india right after high school....how would i do that? im very confused
    please help
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  • Dad_of_3Dad_of_3 1964 replies103 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,067 Senior Member
    Look at Manipal Education or Sri Ramachandra University

    Both have programs that specifically cater to foreign students. I know several who have graduated from both and practise in the US, and some who couldn't take it and dropped out. While you do save the time and money of an undergrad education, it is certainly no party, both during your education there and to get the appropriate certifications to get accepted into the US system. The living conditions and teaching styles are completely different from what the average student here has experienced.
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  • BERN1943BERN1943 41 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 45 Junior Member
    26e. St.Georges is on the island of Granada in the Carribean. It's a really large school with undergrad, vet school etc. in addition to its MD program. It's one of the biggest if not the biggest MD producing school of its kind in the Carribean. You spend your first 2 years in Granada and your 2nd two years doing your rotations in the US. If interested, check out its website.
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  • tompi90tompi90 93 replies27 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 120 Junior Member
    I have a friend who is interested in applying to med school at either cambridge or oxford. However I don't know how the procedure works and their website is pretty confusing so I was wondering: What is the admissions procedure for applying to those two uni's from the U.S.? What is the admissions criteria? Can you still get a residency in the U.S. if you went to either of them?
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  • CaptainChemistryCaptainChemistry 10 replies12 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 22 New Member
    What about the process going the other way? Say you went to med school and did residency in the US and then wanted to practice abroad for a year or two. Is it difficult to do a physician exchange assuming there are no language barriers (e.g. US - UK)?
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  • sen1sen1 2 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2 New Member
    I was thinking about applying to King Edward Medical College in Lahore but I'm not sure if I would qualify. I only have Algebra 2 experience and I heard from the forums that the education and professors aren't that good. Also, can an American fit in at KEM?
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  • mmmcdowemmmcdowe 2321 replies32 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2,353 Senior Member
    CaptainChe-Your US training will make it very easy to travel abraod to do medicine. You will still have to pass licensing just like if you moved to a new state, but it will not be a problem beyond that.

    Sen1- first tell me why you are considering a foreign school. Have you applied in the US yet?
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  • sen1sen1 2 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 2 New Member
    I considered a foriegn school such as KEM because there is no Pre-Med Requirement. I can become a doctor much more quickly. I graduated from high school this year so I will be a freshman.
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