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SayhaySayhay 3 replies2 threads New Member
In which countries can a non-american study medicine with a biomedical engineering degree from Harvard(undergrad) ? Is there any chance in Canada or Australia?
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 42065 replies453 threads Senior Member
    Look at Ireland?
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  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom 10255 replies206 threads Senior Member
    edited June 2018
    Most Australian post-grad medical programs will accept international students on a limited basis. Admission is competitive. You will need to demonstrate you have an adequate foundational knowledge in human anatomy, human physiology and molecular/chemical biology. There are no specific course requirements for internationals, but the your transcript will be analyzed to see if you have meet the basic criteria. Internationals must take & pass a Foundational Knowledge Self-Assessment exam prior to acceptance/matriculation. Additionally internationals will need to take the GAMSAT.

    Be aware, however, that Australia is VERY unwelcoming to internationals who wish to stay & practice medicine in Australia. There are extremely few internships, residencies or registrarships available for internationals. The Australian government has recently revised its visa process and will no longer issue visas for international graduates of Australian medical school to pursue internships within Australia.. (The government also removed physicians of all types/specialties from its Skilled Occupation List for immigration because Australia has oversupply of physicians.)

    If you just want to attend medical school--Australia is a fine choice, but if you are hoping to emigrate and practice medicine there--don't hold your breath.

    New Zealand is more welcoming towards internationals who want to study medicine and remain to practice there. New Zealand's medical education system is primarily a 6 year direct- admit from high school model, but there are some post-grad entry programs. GAMSAT required for post-grad pathway medical admissions.
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  • SayhaySayhay 3 replies2 threads New Member
    No , the thing is medicine is a 7 year program in my own country too but I am going to apply to Harvard undergrad and some other american schools. also I want to become a medical doctor but U.S doesnt let intls study medicine and also there are no funds available in the U.S for international students who wish to study medicine after getting their undergrad degree in the U.S. . So Im asking if there are countries that accept a biomedical eng degree from Harvard to study medicine with full funds? I could only find Australia when I was looking for the countries that offer medicine in graduate level( not directly from Highschool ) and I think this type of schools are the only one I have to be searching for in my case. Like I cant get a 4 year undergrad degree in biomedical engineering and then apply to a school which has 7 year medicine program directly after high school, right? + I think I can get A+s in all subjects in college and keep myself academically strong.
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  • SayhaySayhay 3 replies2 threads New Member
    edited June 2018
    Ireland has 6 year medicine program and not sure but I think it starts right after HighSchool, right? I dont think if it suits my case but Im gonna ask anyway Can I get in with a biomedical engineering degree from Harvard(undergrad)? Does it offer funds to academically strong students?
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  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom 10255 replies206 threads Senior Member
    You're not going to find a fully funded medical education program for non-citizens anywhere.
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  • SayhaySayhay 3 replies2 threads New Member
    What about germany? I know its medical program is directly after highschool but they also offer free medical education to international students.
    Wont I be able to get in after getting an undergrad degree in the U.S?
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  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom 10255 replies206 threads Senior Member
    edited June 2018
    Where you do want to practice medicine?

    The usual advice is to study medicine in the country you intend to practice in. Why? Because each country has its own education & licensing process, A medical degree/medical training from country A is not necessary going to accepted as equivalent to a medical degree/medical training in country B.

    IOW, if you earn medical degree in the US and move to the UK (or Australia or South Africa or Singapore or the EU), you'll be required to retrain in the new country. At a minimum, you'd have take to the licensing exams series in the new country, and probably do additional clinical training as well. Plus, there's usually some sort of oral & written language competency exams you'll need to pass. Some countries do not recognize any specialty training one outside their borders. Immigrant doctors often have complete another full or partial medical residency--and not necessarily in the field they've previously trained in.

    It's a complicated process--and not easy to do.
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  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom 10255 replies206 threads Senior Member
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    Ireland offers post-graduate entry medical programs for internationals. These are mostly geared toward US/UK/ EU students who will study, then leave the country. These programs charge tuition for all internationals and there is no FA.

    Not all German programs offer free tuition to non-EU internationals. Some do; some don't. Plus you still must be able to provide your own living expenses. (And be fully fluent in German as proven by Arbitur examination.) You are not eligible for admission if have a bachelors.

    There are also post-grad entry medical programs in Poland, Italy, Israel, Mexico, various Caribbean countries, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Russia, Cyprus, Philipines, Malaysia, Vanatu, .... But none of them are free, nor do they offer FA to international applicants.

    Again, you haven't answered my questions--what is your home country? Where do you plan to practice medicine?

    Here's a forum for students pursuing medical education outside their home countries; Value MD

    You may have better luck asking your questions there.
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 42065 replies453 threads Senior Member
    edited June 2018
    Let's stop for a moment - your premise is faulty.
    Keep in mind that you're unlikely to get into Harvard. Odds for internationals are about 1-2%, depending on what country you're from -"unlikely" is an understatement.
    So, don't start off with "what if I graduate from Harvard". Odds are, you won't. Where else are you going to apply? How are you choosing the universities you'll apply to?
    Why not apply to "straight after high school" programs?
    Why do you want to study in the US?
    Why biomed engineering?
    Biomedical engineering isn't a pre-medicine path. Premed pre-reqs can be added to any major. If you expand your choices of possible majors, you may find more universities.
    What's your budget? What are your stats?
    Engineering has some grade deflation and getting a high GPA is harder than in other majors. Getting B's is pretty good (but not good enough for med school).
    US med schools do accept some international students, but very very very few; the path is the MD PHD and you have to be really strong in research (conferences, publications) in addition to having a really high GPA (3.8), however the actual university you attend doesn't matter as long as it allows you to conduct research.
    There's a British med school in Malta I think but it's not free.
    Anyone can register for the first year med school exam in France, including if they already have a bachelor's degree, and sit the exam. It's tuition free. It's also very very byzantine and difficult.
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