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Rejected from all my colleges with very high grades

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  • VietLong11VietLong11 7 replies1 threads New Member
    Hello @Gumbymom , thank you so much for the advice. I have heavily considered doing Community College. I have some question however. Considering my desired school of choice is UCSD, what is the chance that I will be able to get in? If I get perfect grades. Is the chance of transfer lower than the normal chance of admission?

    I was waitlisted for UCSD. Do you have any inkling of the chances that I will get in? I know it is quite ambiguous.
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 30560 replies423 threads Forum Champion
    I have linked the 2019 UC Transfer GPA by major and campus to give admit range targets. This is updated each year.

    https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/transfers-major

    Regarding waitlists, since this year is unique, schools may go their waitlists more readily.

    2019 Waitlist stats:
    Waitlist Offers: 20,000
    Waitlist Admits: 4,300

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  • SJ2727SJ2727 2708 replies14 threads Senior Member
    @MYOS1634 what do you mean by “ You can't "reapply" to the colleges you applied to”?
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 43234 replies471 threads Senior Member
    edited April 5
    Well, legally you can, but most selective private colleges aren't going to say "oops we made a mistake last year" and admit you.

    This doesn't apply to community college -> flagship if you spend 2years at the CC, since you're considered& admitted/denied on the strength of your CC record.
    It's also different at large public universities and *sometimes* at universities where you ended up on the waitlist and expressed interest till the end.
    However overall a good strategy is to create an entirely new list. You may keep 1-3 in of you previous year's reaches but only as add ons since the odds are so poor.
    edited April 5
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  • SJ2727SJ2727 2708 replies14 threads Senior Member
    MYOS1634 wrote: »
    Well, legally you can, but most selective private colleges aren't going to say "oops we made a mistake last year" and admit you.

    This doesn't apply to community college -> flagship if you spend 2years at the CC, since you're considered& admitted/denied on the strength of your CC record.
    It's also different at large public universities and *sometimes* at universities where you ended up on the waitlist and expressed interest till the end.
    However overall a good strategy is to create an entirely new list. You may keep 1-3 in of you previous year's reaches but only as add ons since the odds are so poor.

    Ok. I have seen a couple (not a lot) of posts on CC of people being admitted to (private] colleges they had previously been denied at after a gap year. Presumably with a significantly strengthened application- maybe different essay, what they did in gap year etc.
    Just, the way you phrased it made it sound like you literally can not.
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  • aquaptaquapt 2439 replies51 threads Senior Member
    Sorry for the disappointment. Computer Science admissions are really tough, turning "match" schools into "reach" schools and so on.

    The other thing this thread hasn't really addressed is the broader context of the current pandemic. That's going to have a huge effect on college admissions this year and next. It's unclear whether schools will be able to start in the fall with normal on-campus living arrangements. Many families are talking about gap years rather than participating in remote-learning alternatives, but if that happens widely among this year's high school grads, the next year could become crazy-competitive.

    Waitlist admissions will also be affected, although nobody can say for sure yet what the effect will be. My guess is that private colleges and universities where many students pay full-price or close to it and where many students come from outside the school's region, will see a big drop in yield and will make a lot of waitist offers. Whereas schools like UCSD will see yield go up as students who could have spent more to go out of state decide to stay closer to home and spend less. Thus... not to be a pessimist, but I think the current situation lowers your chance of getting accepted from the waitlist. (Also, if you do get a waitlist offer, it might not be for the CS major.)

    There are schools still accepting applications, but they're typically not schools where you could get full financial aid and get your out-of-pocket costs down to your 10K-ish EFC.

    If your home situation is a healthy one where you wouldn't mind living for now, the CC-to-UC option could be a really good choice. Look at which ones have the Computer Science AA-T degree https://adegreewithaguarantee.com/en-us/Find-Colleges , and if there's more than one near you, compare their Honors programs and their offerings in your non-major areas of interest (for example, some CC's have much stronger performing arts programs than others). There will be plenty of bright and driven kids around you if you choose this option - especially this year, when many families are adapting to changes in their financial circumstances. You can apply to UCSD (where your chances will be good if your grades are high), TAG to one of the 6 campuses in the guarantee program (Irvine, Davis, SB, Riverside, Merced, & Santa Cruz) or utilize the AA-T path to a CSU with strong CS (SDSU, Cal Poly, SJSU, etc.).

    Also, don't discount the option of UCM. Do talk to your guidance counselor about your ELC status and confirm whether you can expect an offer from Merced. There's a CS major, and going to a smaller UC can have its advantages. You would find your tribe there, especially in CS. Sure, UCSC is better known for CS, but it's also a struggle to get into the classes you need there, and the housing crunch is terrible - I would not want to be a low-income student trying to find affordable off-campus housing in Santa Cruz after the first two years. Off-campus housing in Merced is plentiful and affordable.

    I would keep scanning the horizon for other options and cross fingers for UCSD, but for the most part assume that it'll be a choice between UCM and the CC transfer pathway. Or, as your mom says, go ahead and take the gap year, especially if you have a solid plan for how to spend the time (i.e. a job that you're pretty sure of in spite of economic upheaval - note that you *cannot* take college classes or you'll lose your stats as a freshman applicant, but you could take non-credit coding classes, for example, and strengthen your background and demonstrated interest in the field)... but be clear that it's going to be a tough year to apply, and you've experienced how tough it is already for CS applicants.

    Personally, I'd take the gap year option only if I wanted to go far from home. If I wanted to stay in the CA public system, I wouldn't postpone a whole year just to get into a "better" school as a freshman, when the CC pathway is a more reliable path to the same ultimate destination. OTOH, a consultant could help you find good target schools where you could get full-need-met aid; for example, there are schools like Lehigh and Lafayette, where Asian students are under-represented and where Early Decision applicants have a strong advantage - a well-chosen ED application to a school where you'd offer both racial/ethnic and geographic diversity could potentially land you an acceptance with a full-need-met aid package. Is it worth waiting and gambling vs. taking one of the birds-in-the-hand? Hard to say - depends what you are looking for. If I were you, I'd deposit at UCM to keep that option open, as the gap year or CC decision can be made much later, and we can't know right now how events will unfold over the next few months that could inform your decision in ways that we can't predict today. Hang in there - it will work out!
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 30560 replies423 threads Forum Champion
    Just and FYI: UCSB and UCI no longer accept TAG for CS majors. UCSB also does not accept TAG for any Engineering major.
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  • sgopal2sgopal2 3874 replies52 threads Senior Member
    The coronavirus situation needs to be considered in your plans. The end is not in sight. I really doubt that most colleges will be running normally by Fall 2020. The virtual platforms will probably still be in effect, at least until there is a vaccine and/or effective anti-virals.

    So, if virtual learning is going to be the norm, then why pay huge tuitions? Just go to community college and load up on general ed requirements, and plan on transferring. By fall 2021 things probably will be better.
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  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan 13628 replies32 threads Senior Member
    If you are deadset on UCSD, while CS seems tough to transfer in to from CC, transferring in to Computer Engineering at UCSD seems much more doable, and CompE would set you up for any job CS would.

    The CC route is the only way you can guarantee a route to CS/CompE at a UC though efforts that are completely within your control.
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  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan 13628 replies32 threads Senior Member
    @worksmartnothard: UCs outside the bottom tier (UCR and UCM) aren't safeties for anyone.
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  • BelovedMazeBelovedMaze 8 replies0 threads New Member
    Honestly, I have no idea why no one has mentioned the UC application essay yet. I feel like that plays a big part in the decisions. I got rejected from UCSB and UC Berk with a 1510 and a 4.4 gpa weighted. I only spent a week on my 4 essays and barely submitting it Nov 29 when all my studious friends around me had finished theirs since the start of their summer transitioning into senior year.

    Going to the CC route isn't a bad idea, cheap too. I'm not too sure about taking a gap year because you'd need to still be active, take parts in things like research or apply for scholarship imo.
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  • CalCUStanfordCalCUStanford 100 replies3 threads Junior Member
    @VietLong11 : You've got many constructive posts up above for your reference. As suggested by many, you can consider going to your local community or city college for two years and make a transfer especially during this very period. Make sure the CC you go to offer courses which are accredited by your targeted UC schools.

    Several of my friends did so back in the early 2000s (including one from Vietnam), and managed to graduate in 4 years.

    BelovedMaze said it right in Post#32 - the essay is definitely an integral part of the application decision.

    Good luck!
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  • barquebarque 13 replies1 threads New Member
    UCSD CS is SUPER COMPETITIVE, I know a guy with IB 45 (actual score) got admitted.
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  • brantlybrantly 4290 replies78 threads Senior Member
    VietLong11 wrote: »
    I didn't apply to any schools that required CSS.
    VietLong11 wrote: »
    . . . I thought that I had a great chance for UCI and SD. I applied to those plus a few other T20.

    You should double-check. Almost all T-20 schools require CSS. Where exactly did you apply?
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  • aquaptaquapt 2439 replies51 threads Senior Member
    OP hasn't logged into CC for almost three months.
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