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Jesuit Rankings, the Great Debate.

simpson98simpson98 690 replies59 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 749 Member
edited March 2013 in Georgetown University
How do people feel America's top Jesuit universities should be ranked? Personally, I think it should go:

1. Georgetown
2. Notre Dame
3. Boston College
4. Holy Cross
5. Fordham

There's a lot of debate over whether Notre Dame or Georgetown is a better overall institution, and I know that there are a million things to judge a college by, but I was interested to see how other people responded. Thanks!

EDIT: I just remembered Notre Dame technically isn't Jesuit, so consider this a Catholic university ranking.
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  • Claire1016Claire1016 1003 replies85 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,088 Senior Member
    Holy Cross is the sh**
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  • ripper90ripper90 15 replies1 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 16 New Member
    gtown hands down...

    I got in EA and deferred at Notre Dame so I'm biased lol
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  • 1980collegegrad1980collegegrad 1350 replies153 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    Here's an interesting take on this very question in a Time Magazine article 1962. At that time Holy Cross was considered far superior to BC. BC was just a commuter college at the time.

    BEST CATHOLIC COLLEGES - TIME

    They obviously have closed the gap and are now seen as more selective.
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  • DCforMeDCforMe 612 replies14 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 626 Member
    that was an interesting article, 1980
    Also in the "Catholic Ivy League," and considered by many Catholics to be academically superior to Georgetown, is Holy Cross, in Worcester, Mass
    Due respect to Holy Cross, but let this be a lesson to those reveling in Georgetown's USNWR ranking now: the winds can shift a great deal in 40 years ;)
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  • 1980collegegrad1980collegegrad 1350 replies153 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    I heard that back in the 50s and 60s that the top Catholic colleges were on par with Ivy League colleges because the top Catholic high schools would send all of their top students there. This was in part because there was still lingering anti-Catholicism at Ivy League schools and because the priests and nuns at the Catholic high schools would ensure that their students went to Catholic colleges if at all possible.
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  • nstar19nstar19 113 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 122 Junior Member
    I personally think both ND and Georgetown are great schools--both have their pros and both have their cons. Academically you can't go wrong with either. But there are differences, certainly, when it comes to other factors like campus (which, having been to both, ND definitely wins) and location (Washington DC definitely beats South Bend haha).
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  • yenrodyenrod 242 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 246 Junior Member
    Fordham is often considered to be superior to Holy Cross.
    I personally feel that Georgetown is superior to Notre Dame - Georgetown has diversity and no comparison with location
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  • ipaytuitionipaytuition 25 replies2 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 27 New Member
    Boston College is a joke - If it weren't for Doug Flutie, it would still be a commuter school. It is not in the class of the other schools listed.
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  • simpson98simpson98 690 replies59 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 749 Member
    What? I'll admit that BC isn't quite up to par with Gtown or Notre Dame, but it's still a great school. The Carroll school is pretty well known, and its fairly selective, like 25%ish, it accepts a ton of kids who are just below "Ivy level", so that gives it a lot of strength.
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  • 1980collegegrad1980collegegrad 1350 replies153 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    Among LACs, College of the Holy Cross is considered to be the best Catholic liberal arts college in the US.
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  • vienna manvienna man 832 replies75 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 907 Member
    The Carnegie Endowment in its journal Foreign Policy Magazine rated the Georgetown School of Foreign Service's Masters degrees programs first in the world in 2007. This is the first time that a Catholic institution of higher learning has had an academic program rated first ahead the Oxfords, Harvards and Yales of the world. No other Catholic college has achieved this kind of truly outstanding recognition. This is something that the great Catholic educators of the 1950s and 1960s, the Theodore Hesburghs and Edward Bunns, would have probably never dreamed of seeing. Fr. Hesburgh is a actually fortunate enough to have seen this happen.

    All of us who value Catholic higher education, can also truly take pride that we live a world where today the Presidents of two secular Ivy League level institutions, MIT (and former provost of Yale) and Columbia's Barnard College, are degree holding alumni of Georgetown. In 1965 or even 1975, this would have been inconceivable.
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  • airbagairbag 151 replies28 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 179 Junior Member
    I personally think both ND and Georgetown are great schools--both have their pros and both have their cons. Academically you can't go wrong with either. But there are differences, certainly, when it comes to other factors like campus (which, having been to both, ND definitely wins) and location (Washington DC definitely beats South Bend haha).

    Yeah, I agree. I was choosing between these schools last year, and it was a really tough choice, since both had so much to offer in different ways. My final choice came down to science departmental strength and the fact that Georgetown has no engineering program (major drawback). The location of Georgetown is one to be envied, though.
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  • chronicfuture12chronicfuture12 1375 replies163 discussions- Posts: 1,538 Senior Member
    I would probably say that Holy Cross is the best Jesuit school in the nation, and it has nothing to do with the fact that I have double legacy there.
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  • sophomore12sophomore12 1063 replies32 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,095 Senior Member
    "I would probably say that Holy Cross is the best Jesuit school in the nation, and it has nothing to do with the fact that I have double legacy there"

    hahaha. I don't know whether to take that statement seriously.
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  • simpson98simpson98 690 replies59 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 749 Member
    I'll accept that Holy Cross may be the best Catholic liberal arts college in the country, but it's really not up to par with Georgetown or Notre Dame, or even BC for that matter.

    Maybe for certain majors like the Classics, but not overall.
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