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The most prestigious schools to the sight of top professionals schools:

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Replies to: The most prestigious schools to the sight of top professionals schools:

  • BillyMcBillyMc . Posts: 7,753 Senior Member
    You are in denial with reality.
    Someone this concerned with "prestige" is in denial of reality.
    I was giving you an example upon which I challenge you to draw a conclusion from it.
    You pulled out random numbers and assigned them to random schools and I told you that it did not pertain to "prestige," which does not matter. Anyway, a sample size of one (USU) is too small to make any assumptions from.
    The college you attended and the major in which you earned your degree often are taken into consideration
    What we see.
    The college you attended is THE MOST ****ING IMPORTANT THING OF YOUR LIFE, INCLUDING GRAD SCHOOL ADMISSIONS.
    What RML sees.
    Also... On a side note:
    The acceptance rate from A-Z school to X school isn't really relevant either. Because that's STILL a correlation and not a causation. If you assume that the more intelligent students go to the more highly ranked undergrad colleges, then you're obviously going to get disproportionate representation of students from the top colleges at the top graduate schools. Simply because the more intelligent students went to the top school, which means that, if they continue to succeed in college, as they did in HS, of course more students will get accepted from XZY school, if XZY school is, say for instance, HYP.
    You are correct. It's similar to how there is an income gap between state school grads and Harvard grads, but the gap disappears once you account for "personal ability."
  • AlexandreAlexandre Registered User Posts: 24,395 Senior Member
    Below are some other stats:

    University of Chicago Law School (out of 636 Law students)
    University of Chicago 30
    Northwestern University 25
    University of Notre Dame 23
    Yale University 21
    Stanford University 20
    Cornell University 19
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 19
    Brigham Young University 18
    University of California-Berkeley 18
    University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 17
    University of Wisconsin-Madison 17
    University of Texas-Austin 16
    Duke University 12
    University of Pennsylvania 12
    Dartmouth College 11
    Harvard University 11
    Georgetown University 10
    Princeton University 10
    University of California-Los Angeles 10

    http://catalogs.uchicago.edu/law-folder/law0708.pdf (page 134)

    University of Michigan Medical School (out of a total of 665 Medical students)
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 176
    Harvard University 37
    Stanford University 23
    Duke University 19
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology 19
    Michigan State University 16
    University of Notre Dame 16
    Yale University 16
  • lesdiablesbleuslesdiablesbleus Registered User Posts: 746 Member
    Lets keep this list going...

    UVA LAW SCHOOL 8 YEAR PROFILE FROM 2006-2013
    UVA: 421
    W&M: 109
    Duke: 101

    Princeton: 85
    BYU: 78
    Georgetown: 73
    UNC: 72

    Yale: 64
    Harvard: 62
    Dartmouth: 61
    Class of 2013 Profile
  • lesdiablesbleuslesdiablesbleus Registered User Posts: 746 Member
    Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and Duke are in a completely different league than every other school with regards to placement to the top professional schools. After these 5 schools, placement is very regional with the best local schools reigning supreme.
  • lesdiablesbleuslesdiablesbleus Registered User Posts: 746 Member
    Vanderbilt Medicine From 2006-2010
    Vanderbilt: 95
    Harvard: 24
    Notre Dame: 21
    Wash U: 16
    Duke: 15
    Yale: 14
    Princeton: 13
    Penn: 12
    Emory: 11
    UVA: 11
    https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented
  • lesdiablesbleuslesdiablesbleus Registered User Posts: 746 Member
    Berkeley's Undergraduate Population: 25.530
    Duke's Undergraduate Population: 6,504
    Princeton's Undergraduate Population: 5,113

    It's silly to not consider the differences in the sizes of the undergraduate population of these schools when comparing placement results.
  • lesdiablesbleuslesdiablesbleus Registered User Posts: 746 Member
    I would almost guarantee that Duke is at least a top 10, if not a top 5 feeder to Stanford GSB, Stanford Law and Harvard Med. So many students at Duke dream of going to Stanford for graduate school, more so than any other school.
  • lesdiablesbleuslesdiablesbleus Registered User Posts: 746 Member
    What in the world are you talking about? Almost 50% of Berkeley's premed students would love to go to any medical school period let alone a top 20 medical school like Vanderbilt considering half of UCB's premeds don't get admitted to medical school. There just aren't that many smart premed students at Berkeley to equally dominate every top 20 medical school unlike Harvard College.

    If the bottom of Harvard's premed applicant pool is enrolling at Vandy, then that shows you how far and away the best university in the world that Harvard is. That would be nothing short of extraordinary.
    Alexandre wrote:
    Cal, Johns Hopkins, MIT and Michigan are going have a lower percentage of pre-law students than universities with large A&S and most LACs.
    Huh? I'm pretty sure Michigan, Cal and UT-Austin have the three largest law school applicant pools in the entire country. All these schools have enormous Arts & Science divisions whose students mostly aspire to apply to law school or medical school.
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