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getting into Harvard med school from...UCSB or Tulane?

obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
edited April 2009 in Graduate School
hi. im a high school senior. im freaking out because i severely messed up high school. in general.. would i be at a disadvantage for graduate admissions if i went to an unappetizing school like UCSB or Tulane compared to someone who went to Yale or MIT? can i get into harvard for grad school from either of these? (assuming i have a high gpa and MCAT)
edited April 2009
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  • AceflyerAceflyer 251 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Sounds like you're asking about medical school, not graduate school. In that case, you have the wrong board. You want the Medical School board.
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  • obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
    thanks but that thread doesn't seem to be realistic. thats the same crap i got fed as a high school student and look where it got me. nowhere. im not letting that happen again. i need advice on how to get into harvard, princeton, yale, mit etc.
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  • OyamaOyama 2448 replies38 threads Senior Member
    Nice name.
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  • AceflyerAceflyer 251 replies1 threads Junior Member
    thanks but that thread doesn't seem to be realistic. thats the same crap i got fed as a high school student and look where it got me. nowhere. im not letting that happen again. i need advice on how to get into harvard, princeton, yale, mit etc.

    That thread is realistic and has solid advice for getting into grad school. Also, UCSB and Tulane are fine institutions and I doubt attending either of these schools would hurt your chances down the road.

    I am not clear whether you are interested in grad school (Ph.D.) or med school (M.D.). In your original post, you mention Harvard Medical School and the MCAT, things which seem to indicate you are interested in med school. However, in both of your posts you also refer to grad school and places like Princeton and MIT which don't have a medical school. So what precisely are you looking for?

    Finally, there is more to higher education than a HYP name. Don't get overly hung up on the prestige issue.
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  • sarbruissarbruis 287 replies3 threads Junior Member
    People get into Harvard Med from all kinds of schools, many state schools included. If you have a high MCAT, high GPA, loads of hospital volunteering etc., some research experience, and whatever else, you'll do fine; it won't matter where you came from--and UCSB and Tulane are hardly second-rate, anyway. I go to a school lower-ranked than either of those, and many people here go on to fantastic med schools, including Harvard.

    Also, you should go here: [url=http://****/]Student Doctor Network Forums[/url]; it's home to many overachieving pre-meds who think they'll die if they don't get into a top med school (but mostly it's rational people who can give great advice).
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  • obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
    lol- regardless of how it will or won't make my life perfect.. i want to go to a name brand school - because i'm shallow and paranoid and won't compromise any more. thanks for the advise everyone!
    ps not sure if i want to go to med school yet- lol.. thats why i kind of left it open to interpretation.
    is it a plus that i started research as a high school student?? im an author on two papers with a major research university.
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  • MomwaitingfornewMomwaitingfornew 5611 replies210 threads Senior Member
    Concentrate on one thing at a time! Do well in undergrad, and the rest will fall into place.

    As for the answer to your OP, do a little research to see where current Harvard med students went to college.
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  • AceflyerAceflyer 251 replies1 threads Junior Member
    lol- regardless of how it will or won't make my life perfect.. i want to go to a name brand school - because i'm shallow and paranoid and won't compromise any more. thanks for the advise everyone!
    ps not sure if i want to go to med school yet- lol.. thats why i kind of left it open to interpretation.
    is it a plus that i started research as a high school student?? im an author on two papers with a major research university.

    What biological sciences grad programs look for generally differs significantly from what medical schools look for. If you haven't even decided what you want to pursue down the road, posting this thread was probably premature.

    Medical schools care about ECs and shadowing and volunteering. They will ask open-ended, often philosophical questions to try and determine what kind of person you are. They care about work and life experiences. They care about GPA and MCAT scores a lot. Research also helps, but is less important than clinical experience (unless you're applying to MD/PhD programs).

    Biological sciences grad programs couldn't care less about ECs or shadowing or volunteering. As a rule of thumb, they won't ask you to philosophize on open-ended questions. They don't care as much about work and life experiences. They do care about GPA and GRE scores, but not nearly as much as medical schools care about GPA and MCAT scores. They care most about research. After all, research is the most important part by far of graduate study in the biological sciences.

    It is easy to see why these differences arise when you consider the differences between graduate school and professional school.

    Oh, by the by, you might want to look into ditching that shallow and paranoid attitude. It isn't helpful and is, in fact, rather obnoxious. Besides annoying people, having such an attitude also won't help you get into a 'name brand school'.
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  • obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
    ahh wisdom! spoken like a true mother.. thank you!
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  • teamamteamam 446 replies1 threads Member
    unappetizing? seriously? tulane is an awesome school.
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  • AceflyerAceflyer 251 replies1 threads Junior Member
    unappetizing? seriously? tulane is an awesome school.

    But obviously it isn't a 'name brand school' as defined by the OP.
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  • obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
    well- i don't hide the obnoxious strain b/c its futile - hence the name... i've been f-ed over enough by my "deep" strain so i'm abandoning genuineness.. it gets one nowhere fast.
    thanks for the advice though. im know i'll be getting an MD/PhD if i go to med school.. so either way im getting a PhD. i started research in high school and i love it.. published papers already.. so i guess i'll continue down that road. THANKS AGAIN. comments welcome in abundance!
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  • obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
    teamam!! i know its an awesome school.. but really now... it can't be compared with stanford or MIT... sigh.. reality bites. there are different levels of amazing. its like comparing an SAT score of 2400 with one of 2380... both awesome.. but one is bound to look better. (on paper at least)
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  • MomwaitingfornewMomwaitingfornew 5611 replies210 threads Senior Member
    But obviously it isn't a 'name brand school' as defined by the OP.

    :)

    Many people would scream for joy if they got into either one of those schools. On CC, though, too many think that it's a failure. The real trick is getting a fantastic GPA at those schools and working with professors at a level high enough to earn their respect.
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  • y1justiny1justin 42 replies4 threads Junior Member
    Hey dude, your attitued likes those Harvard guys:)

    Some years later, if, I mean if, you can really get into HYPM I wil say"Cong, boy!" honestly..

    But please remeber, people who can get into HYPS, MIT, CIT or ?IT etc do not need to ask someone else to give them advice on " how can I get into those universities...
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  • AceflyerAceflyer 251 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Many people would scream for joy if they got into either one of those schools. On CC, though, too many think that it's a failure. The real trick is getting a fantastic GPA at those schools and working with professors at a level high enough to earn their respect.

    I couldn't agree more. CC'ers unfortunately do often view those schools as 'not good enough'. The truth is, as you say, getting a fantastic GPA and doing fantastic research is much more important than obsessing over the difference in prestige between, for example, Tulane and MIT.
    Hey dude, your attitued likes those Harvard guys:)

    Hey, don't generalize. I don't think I have such an attitude, and neither do any of my friends.
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  • sra08sra08 65 replies3 threads Junior Member
    I think you mean that Tulane isn't Harvard or MIT in terms of name value. But it has a lot to offer, including things which perhaps HM can't offer, such as a smaller, more intimate program overall, especially if you're in their honors program. You won't have to compete with as many grad students for research opportunities, and they give their graduates a great discount on getting a Master's after graduation. Sounds pretty good to me. (My sister is Tulane 2013. From what I've been hearing they treat their students stupendously, and I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who has to "settle" for Tulane.) Seriously, name value doesn't matter as much as you think.

    I too, "screwed up" during high school, which put me out of the running for the Ivies. I still went to a great school and will be graduating with honors next month. I got into good graduate programs. Education is what you make of it, not a name.
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  • BenetodeBenetode 431 replies8 threads Member
    This is the very problem with CC. It can make you paranoid about which colleges are the "only good ones." Take for example, Harvard Law School: Undergraduate Colleges

    You can clearly see that with Harvard, they truly want diversity of thought and background. Someone got into their law school from Mississippi College, which is not that much different from a community college with an attached med school and law school.

    Harvard may actually be harder to get into coming from an extremely prestigious school simply because there will be more applications from those schools. How many Yalies do they really want on Harvard Yard anyway. Tulane and UCSB are both fine schools. Do well in college, volunteer a lot, do well on the MCAT and maybe even do a one year Masters program and you'll be in the running.
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  • obnoxious1obnoxious1 87 replies12 threads- Junior Member
    again-im not looking to hear people's sermons about the actual value of a brand name school- your not going to convert me.. thanks for the effort though. i have a goal- to get into an ivy.. i really don't care about anything else.
    benetode- one year masters?? what? i've never heard of doing that? is it actually necessary??
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