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"Why Grinnell," a continuation

MatzoBallMatzoBall 206 replies17 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
The old "Why Grinnell" thread (http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/grinnell-college/438138-why-grinnell-p1.html) is closed. It was a treasure trove that ran from 2007 to 2016, and in my opinion is an essential and still relevant read for anyone considering the school. It was helpful to my family in narrowing down an overwhelming array of options, and the kindness of the posters there beautifully captures the spirit of the school.

I wondered if it was time to start a new thread where people could post why they or their kids choose Grinnell, and other general info to help prospects narrow their choices. I'll start. Here is a working link to 82 photographs of the campus by former student David Kennedy: http://www.lightsedgestudios.com/a-portrait-of-grinnell/ . The link in the old thread was dead.

But even if there is nothing new to add, it seemed worth posting a link to the old thread before it got buried forever.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    I also hope people will chime in. I have a feeling that Grinnell is perfect for our S19 and I love seeing more and more reasons that prove it!
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  • starjoy8starjoy8 76 replies6 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @agentaquastar I think this post may be helpful to you. :)
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @Andrew2199 @MatzoBall Care to comment at all on career services at Grinnell? It hasn't come up here. Our S19 really liked his visit and just interviewed with the rep. He is not interested in grad school and wants to work after undergrad. He's undecided on major and has wide interests from math and physics to government and art. I'm trying to convince my husband that a liberal arts school will still set him up for job success and companies will certainly visit and interview kids from Grinnell. When we look at other schools' career center websites (Carleton, MIdd, Bowdoin, Williams), they seem much more specific about how the schools help kids with internships and jobs after school.

    Any thoughts on how Grinnell would compare when it comes to job placement? Do a large percent of kids go to grad school or off to something like the Peace Corp or TFA?
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  • Cornellian88Cornellian88 50 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    https://www.grinnell.edu/after-grinnell/cls This should answer your questions in detail. A quick call to them could directly answer any questions you have. Returned from New Student Orientation a week ago and was impressed at what services they provide students. Internships, externships, alumni networking etc.
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  • PublisherPublisher 7740 replies80 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Oddly, this thread has caused me to rethink recommending Grinnell to so many.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Thanks @Cornellian88. I've looked through Grinnell's website and even attended parent meetings there on careers while S19 was in a class. I definitely got the feeling that, while they offer the things above, it's not a popular choice for students to go into business. Everyone we met seemed to be doing research, planning grad school, working at non-profits...all great but probably not what S19 will want to do. There's a stark difference between Grinnell's career info on their website and some of the schools' websites I've mentioned. I'm hoping to find parents or students who have first hand knowledge of kids getting consulting or analyst jobs out of Grinnell. If Grinnell is primarily a feeder school for grad schools, I need to know that too.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @Publisher Care to elaborate?
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  • PublisherPublisher 7740 replies80 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @homerdog: Grinnell College is neither a target or semi-target school for IB & MC (and certainly not a core school).

    Because these types of positions are typically taken by former interns--approximately 70%--Grinnell College would place one desiring such a career at a severe disadvantage.
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  • PublisherPublisher 7740 replies80 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Same line of thinking as "Methinks thou doest protest too much." Trying too hard. Overselling. And the location would make securing employment more challenging than it needs to be. @homerdog

    P.S. The most recent poll regarding IB placement revealed that location is key. Accordingly, NYU beat out Harvard. NYU & Columbia were among the top three or four for Wall Street IB placement.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    @Publisher Right. No chance that S19 will want IB but maybe consulting or an analyst job at a Fortune 500. When we visited, there was one student who just interned at Deloitte and was offered a job after graduation. I thought that was good but now I'm wondering if that's a very small percentage of kids and if she had some other connection to get that job.
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  • PublisherPublisher 7740 replies80 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Unfortunately, while I have substantial knowledge on the topic of Big 4 employment , it is off topic in this thread.

    I find Grinnell College attractive for its generous financial aid policies & practices as well as for a high quality education among kind & conscientious peers.

    P.S. I would suggest Grinnell College for those who see graduate school in their future.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    @Publisher See, the thing is that S19 really did like it. His actual experience at school for those four years would be wonderful. But we are concerned about job placement and it will be a deal breaker once acceptances come in and he has to decide. He visited Carleton and Bowdoin and loved both. Also liked Davidson and I think he would like Hamilton. Kenyon now also gives me pause but he really liked it as well. Just starting to realize that some LACs are just better at the business career part than others. Of course, the ones that place the best are the hardest to get into!
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  • prezbuckyprezbucky 4320 replies11 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    I didn't choose Grinnell, but if I were looking at midwestern LACs it would be near the top of my list:

    - Very strong academics
    - Friendly vibe (if a bit liberal for my own tastes; but then I'm 42 now, not 18-22...)
    - Huge endowment per student, which means they have the ability to spend a lot of money on their students
    - Quiet rural location within about an hour of Iowa's two largest cities and the hopping U of Iowa, and a couple hours from a rather large river.

    If a kid doesn't have to study on an ocean coast, at a large school, in a city, or major in some STEMy programs, Grinnell is a fine option.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4934 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @prezbucky See, that's all terrific but he can get that at Bowdoin, Davidson, Carleton, Hamilton....and those schools also seem to get kids into jobs. I know it's not up to the school and the student has to lead the charge but, certainly, the school's connections matter. Only thing is that Grinnell gives merit which makes it in the running but I am now wondering if the extra $60-$80k at another school would be "worth" it. (We are full pay.)
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  • PublisherPublisher 7740 replies80 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @homerdog: I do not want this thread to get off topic, so I will send you a private message.
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  • prezbuckyprezbucky 4320 replies11 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Those schools are all similar in academic rep and quality, probably. So I would differentiate them based on fit variables like location, weather, convenience to home/travel cost, and social vibe. If you want to rank them based on academics, look at available majors and courses, distribution requirements, faculty in areas of interest, academic calendar. They'll all offer mostly small, intimate, interactive classroom environments.

    But in terms of applying -- you can apply anywhere. If multiple acceptances result, then you can visit if the decision is difficult. Visiting is also advised if an applicant is considering an ED application.

    If he got into Grinnell with some merit, and Hamilton with no merit... unless Hamilton were simply a better fit, I'd choose Grinnell. That money could come in handy down the road, and for two products of similar quality -- as Grinnell and Hamilton are, personal fit variables being equal -- why pay five-figures more for one than the other?
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  • PublisherPublisher 7740 replies80 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    But I think that the concern is about job placement--especially in the context of one who is not intent on going to grad school.
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