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Harvard Class of 2023 Waitlisted Discussion

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  • JustLetMeInPlzJustLetMeInPlz 39 replies3 threads Junior Member
    @LincolnsGF What does Ivy+ mean?
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  • skieuropeskieurope 40797 replies7594 threads Super Moderator
    does Harvard typically waitlist less-qualified/non-ivy-bound applicants?
    I'm not really understanding the question. Harvard typically only waitlists qualified applicants. They may (and this is purely supposition, since they won't say) WL less-than-qualified legacies as a soft reject.
    What does Ivy+ mean?
    I interpreted it as peer schools - MIT, Stanford, etc.
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  • pandi2023pandi2023 10 replies0 threads New Member
    Hi where (email address) we send the LOCI to? thanks
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  • hgrad2010hgrad2010 133 replies0 threads Junior Member
    Yeah I would just echo what @jzducol and @skieurope have said. I'm an interviewer and the head of our local interviewing committee explained to us that Harvard doesn't have a ranking of waitlisted candidates--they just have different profiles of students they would like to swap in should one defect. As a result, Harvard has a rather large waitlist to cover their bases.

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  • LincolnsGFLincolnsGF 164 replies2 threads Junior Member
    Is it best to email the LOCI to admissions or upload it to the additional materials link provided for waitlisted applicants?
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  • gibbygibby 10534 replies246 threads Senior Member
    It's best to follow directions, meaning you should upload the additional materials to the link provided for waitlisted applicants.
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  • ibanker38ibanker38 82 replies12 threads Junior Member
    Does harvard read every waitlist LOCI?
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  • gibbygibby 10534 replies246 threads Senior Member
    edited April 2019
    Admissions has spent the last five months creating a class, meaning they have balanced the number of men and women, admitted students from each state, taken EC's into account to makes sure the orchestra has enough tuba players etc.

    To maintain the balance created, when a student turns Harvard down, Admissions goes to their waitlist to find a "like kind" replacement. For example, if a student who plays the violin turns them down, Admissions is going to search their waitlist for violin players. If you're not a violin player then chances are you won't be pulled off the waitlist for that slot and your LOCI will not be read. But it might be read if you are a "like-kind" replacement for another student's slot.
    edited April 2019
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  • bertieprcbertieprc 23 replies0 threads Junior Member
    does your potential major factor into the balancing @gibby
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  • gibbygibby 10534 replies246 threads Senior Member
    ^^ No. Yes. Possibly. Who knows. Admissions is anything but transparent.
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  • ccitriniccitrini 3 replies1 threads New Member
    I'm a lurking parent for my daughter who's been Wait-Listed.

    Does anyone have experience with NROTC scholarships and Ivy Leagues?

    This is my 3rd (!) child who's been given a NROTC scholarship match to Harvard: her two older brothers were then Not Admitted (oldest brother) and Wait-Listed (second brother). Both were then medically disqualified for red/green color deficiency. The son who was WL'ed didn't pursue the Wait List.

    Now my daughter really wants to go to Harvard, with or without the NROTC scholarship. She has to accept NROTC scholarship by May 5; Harvard admission counselor said there is no chance she'll know her status either way by May 5; he did say the first acceptances off the Wait List will most likely happen 'mid-May' 'when the committee convenes'. This matches what Dean Fitzsimmons said in a recent article about what happens with Wait-Listed students.

    She's accepted to Boston College, which is where she may end up accepting on May 1. (Boston College though, unlike Harvard, offers no tuition benefit for NROTC students).

    Thank you for any insights.
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  • skieuropeskieurope 40797 replies7594 threads Super Moderator
    @ccitrini You may get a better response by asking on the serviceacademyforums site.
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  • gibbygibby 10534 replies246 threads Senior Member
    edited April 2019
    @ccitrini: When an admitted student brings outside scholarships to Harvard, those outside scholarships are used to replace:

    (1) Term-time job expectation: https://college.harvard.edu/what-term-time-work-expectation
    The term-time job expectation listed on your award letter is the amount of earnings during the academic year that we expect you to contribute toward your college costs. Your financial aid letter will designate whether you can work in a job funded by FWSP or need to focus your job search on positions not funded by the program.

    (2) Summer earnings expectation: https://handbook.fas.harvard.edu/book/expectations-regarding-other-contributions
    In determining eligibility for scholarship assistance, the Committee expects that students will save from $1,200 to $2,600 of their summer job earnings to be contributed toward the educational expenses of the following year. This expectation cannot be waived for students choosing to volunteer or participate in unpaid internships, although there are subsidized student loan funds available on request to cover this expectation.

    If a student has outside awards that exceed their term-time & summer work expectation, the remaining outside scholarship money is deducted dollar-for-dollar against the amount awarded to the student in a Harvard scholarship. So outside scholarship money does NOT offer a direct tuition benefit at Harvard, nor does it reduce the parental contribution. See: https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/types-aid/outside-awards.

    IMHO, your daughter should accept the NROTC scholarship and wait and see what happens at Harvard. FWIW: If the past is any indiction, there are several "waves" of waitlist notices that begin around mid-May and go until about mid-June, so your daughter many not find out about an acceptance for a while.

    edited April 2019
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  • theblythebly 97 replies6 threads Junior Member
    Gonna be very vague here, but apparently my HoS somehow talked to an AO about me, and it went over really well? Like the AO remembered me and was actually impressed about my stuff and I think liked me. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I hope this is a good sign
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  • theblythebly 97 replies6 threads Junior Member
    Also, I was crunching numbers, and if Harvard waitlisted around 1200 kids, and the yield stays the same, the acceptance rate should be around 10%. Fitzsimmons said that a third of kids on the waitlist don't accept their spot. I also think 90 or so kids were admitted last year including z-list, so I think it should be around 10%.
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  • theblythebly 97 replies6 threads Junior Member
    Anybody getting a letter from Harvard today? I see one in my informed delivery
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  • LincolnsGFLincolnsGF 164 replies2 threads Junior Member
    @thebly Informed delivery?
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  • nigelunonigeluno 102 replies8 threads Junior Member
    @thebly what was the letter about?
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  • KredantKredant 2 replies1 threads New Member
    I was waitlisted in Harvard, Columbia, NYU, Dartmouth, and UPenn. Anxious for the final decisions!!!
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  • nigelunonigeluno 102 replies8 threads Junior Member
    @Kredant I was also waitlisted to Columbia! Good luck!
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