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A's on the rise in U.S. report cards, but SATs flounder


Replies to: A's on the rise in U.S. report cards, but SATs flounder

  • sunnyschoolsunnyschool Registered User Posts: 849 Member
    Right but weighted grades are different everywhere. 6.0 at some schools; but 4.3 is highest at others.
    If students took advanced classes because they want the challenge in the areas they are interested in, then colleges would see the students without that GPA-grubbing incentive. Perhaps schools could use a "Rigor Rater" such as a footnote on transcript (just an idea):

    What level of rigor did this student take:
    1- Honors/AP level courses in every subject
    2- Honors/AP levels courses in 2-3 core academic subjects
    3 - Just a few Honors/AP classes
    4 - No Honors/AP but all college-bound level academic courses
    5 - Half or more basic skills classes

    FYI, some of the top prep schools in the US do not weight grades. But, all students there had to meet high admission standards.
  • itsgettingreal17itsgettingreal17 Registered User Posts: 3,247 Senior Member
    UT lowered its auto admit requirement because of population growth. It’s just getting more competitive, and isn’t leaving more room for holistic admits.

    In any event, UT isn’t the end all be all. It’s an excellent school but there are other great options in Texas. High school shouldn’t feel like a hell hole. It didn’t for my D and she went to a competitive high school. Choose to play the game or don’t. No need to kill yourself trying to gain top rank if you get stressed out by the workload.
  • collegemomjamcollegemomjam Registered User Posts: 1,218 Senior Member
    So many great points have been raised on this thread and I wish there was a solution to them all.

    As for the situation in Texas and other states that have the automatic admission to the top X% kids at their respective high schools, I think they created a bigger problem by doing this. While I do think that a student in a lower socio-economic school system should be cut a little slack for not having the same opportunities as a student from the more affluent communities (and therefore only compared to the students in their school), they certainly have to figure out a way to not shun these top kids that want a fair chance of admission at their state's flagship, which might be their dream school.

    @NoPlay so if you aren't top 6% do you at least still have a shot at an unreserved spot at UT where they will take into consideration your scores, EC's and just the overall competitiveness of your high school?

    @sunnyschool I feel like in NJ, because we are a small state, some of the colleges do recognize the kids that are coming from the more competitive schools...for example, Millburn HS. However, I do still think that it's a little harder for these kids even with that extra consideration because so many of the kids are competing for spots at the same schools and the colleges in the end might have to rely more on the objective measurements of GPA to differentiate...I think this is definitely the case for the local schools like Lehigh and Bucknell that are strong...and then of course there are the Ivies, the small LAC's (which can be harder than the Ivies), Georgetown, Tufts, Hopkins, basically all of the top schools in the north east because so many top kids are trying to get into these same schools. They can't accept so many kids from the same high schools...they may accept more kids from the top high schools, but they still probably can't take everyone that has the stats. This is unfortunate and makes me feel bad for these hard workers that may not end up at one of their top choices (and in my opinion, this justifies having a long list of schools so that you can increase your chances of getting in the type of school you are hoping for!).

    This is a very difficult problem to solve as they try to be as fair as possible to all of the parties involved.
  • collegemomjamcollegemomjam Registered User Posts: 1,218 Senior Member
    A few years ago a good friend of mine who lives in one of these top school districts in NJ told me that her daughter's guidance counselor told her that that particular year they had something like 100 kids apply to Northeastern. Many kids applied as their "safety" or more likely school. They got CLOBBERED that year by Northeastern. So many kids that didn't get in were shocked. (Northeastern has been on the rise, with good reason, but it was still a shocker and an acceptance no one should ever take fro granted!).
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