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Core tracks for honors students

momtogirls2momtogirls2 947 replies7 threads Member
It seems like the traditional path for classes varies a bit. What is your track for the typical above average (honors) student starting high school without any high school credits., doubling up years etc.?

Math - 4 years required
algebra 1/integrated math 1 is offered at all middle schools but not for high school credit,
9th geometry honors although now it is integrated math 2 honors
10 algebra 2 honors although now it is integrated math 3 honors
11 precalculus honors
12 AP Calc AB or BC

HIstory 3 years required (9-11) 4 recommended
9th US History 1 Honors
10th US History 2 honors or APUSH
11th World History honors or AP World
12th elective - varies quiet a bit AP Gov't, AP Psych etc

Science (3 years required - biology and chemistry and needed 4) 4 recommended
9th Bio honors
10 chemistry honors
11th AP Physics 1 or other lab classes such as Biotech Honors, Forensics Honors etc
12th AP science of choice, honors science

English (4 years required)
9th grade -9th grade honors English Language Arts (ELA)
10 grade - 10 grade honors ELA or AP Language
11th grade 11 grade honors ELA or AP Lit
12th grade honors ELA elective, AP if started in 11th grade, Dual enrollment College Writing etc
I believe AP seminar and AP research are electives in addition to ELA but not positive

Foreign language (2 required, 3-4 recommended)
9th grade was honors but I think now 1st year is all one level starting this year
10-12th honors 2-4
some middle schools may teach year one so 2-4 honors plus AP level
some heritage speakers start at a higher level

We have 7 periods year
also needed for graduation 3 semester of gym 1 semester of health
2 years of elective credits in art, music, business or tech classes
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  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 9183 replies91 threads Senior Member
    D’s HS

    7 periods/day plus lunch

    English 4 years required
    9 honors English
    10 honors English
    11 AP language and composition
    12 AP lit

    Math 4 years required six different tracks. Highest:
    9 Honors geometry
    10 honors Algebra 2
    11 honors precalc and trig
    12 AP calculus

    Science 4 years required
    9 honors bio
    10 honors chem
    11 honors physics
    12 honors AP of one of the above

    History 3 years required
    No history class offered freshman year
    10 AP Euro
    11 APUSH
    12 DE gov one semester and Econ the next

    Foreign Language 2 years required, almost everyone took three. DE 3 and AP were the highest levels offered

    School also required:
    4 years of theology
    1 year of fine arts
    1 year of PE
    1/2 year of Health

    Lots of STEM electives for upperclassmen. My D was able to get in 3 engineering courses, CS, and organic chemistry. She also was able to double up on math and science junior and senior year so she took AP stats, AP chem and AP physics C (both mechanical and E&M).
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  • breadbreadbreadbreadbreadbread 8 replies2 threads New Member
    Without doubling up (in most cases) we have

    4 blocks per day on an A/B schedule + lunch

    Math- up to pre-calc required BUT all four recommended (many took alg II freshman year, so just cut geometry and add another elective if thats the case)
    9- geometry
    10- algebra II
    11- pre-calc
    12- usually calc, stats, or another math elective but you could also drop

    English- all four years
    9- World Lit 9
    10- World Lit 10
    11- American Lit OR AP Lang
    12- Brit Lit OR AP Lit

    Science- bio chem and physics req + one other science
    9- Biology
    10- Chemistry
    11- Physics
    12- AP/DE/other elective

    Social Studies- (i might not be much help here bc we require 5 credits so you have to double up, take with a grain of salt)
    9- Global Studies 9
    10- Global Studies 10
    11- US History Honors OR APUSH
    12- US Government Honors OR AP Gov + elective

    Foreign Language- (yes we require six credits, yes im a US school, yes im real. for an honors diploma in the state however, you need 3 years of one language OR 2 years of 2 different languages, so you can go by that too)
    9- Lang I level I
    10- Lang I level II, Lang II level I
    11- Lang I level III, Lang II level II
    12- Lang I level IV

    Additional:
    2 years of Health and PE
    1 fine art credit (art, music, drama)
    1 online econ and personal finance (state requirement)
    1 senior specific class
    1 freshman specific class
    1 elective credit, can be done by taking any "extra class" (math beyond pre-calc, extra social studies or science credit, etc.)
    You could also take up to 1 study hall a year,

    Some of this is really specific to my school and I know that, but this is how it's laid out in our course planner so
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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 2078 replies33 threads Senior Member
    edited February 16
    Our school has three documented “sequences’ - Honors, Traditional, Concepts. I’d say about 1/3 are generally Honors, but many step back in 1-3 subjects each year. The Honors sequence has

    Math
    9 - H Algebra 2
    10 - H Pre-Calc/Trig
    11 - AP Calc AB, BC or Stats
    12 - AP Calc AB, BC, or Stats

    Social Studies
    9 - H US History
    10 - AP World History
    11 - AP US History
    12 - AP Macro/Micro or AP US Gov and Politics

    Science
    9 - H Bio
    10 - H Chem
    11 - several options, but H Physics is most popular
    12 - AP Chem, Bio, or Physics C

    English
    9 - H English 9
    10 - H English 10
    11 - AP Lang
    12 - AP Lit (though lots of students drop to H Brit Lit)

    Computer Science
    9 - AP Computer Science Principles
    10 - Dual Enrollment Intro To Programming (with University of Pittsburgh)
    11 - Intro to Python or AP Computer Science A
    12 - AP Compute Science A

    Foreign Language
    1 quarter of four languages in 7th (everyone takes this)
    Start a language, Honors classes, in 8th
    Most take H of whatever language through 10th or 11th
    A small number take AP In a language in 12th

    So 10 APs for the “standard” Honors track. Taking 8 is popular. Probably only 5% (25 kids) hit 9 or more.

    5-10 kids are a year advanced in math - 3 AP or 2 plus an advanced online class). A small handful in science take 2 APs. None that I’m aware of in the others.

    1/2 year of gym every year, 1/2 year of health in 7th and 10th for everyone.

    Graduation requirements: English 4, Math 4, Social Studies 4, Science 2 (Bio and Chem), STEM 1 in 10-12th, PhysEd 2, Health 0.5, Arts/Humanities 2, Electives 4.5 to get to the minimum of 24. plus a Senior Project.
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  • MaineLonghornMaineLonghorn 40354 replies2206 threads Super Moderator
    @RichInPitt do kids take Algebra I and geometry in middle school?
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  • Darcy123Darcy123 436 replies7 threads Member
    For honors kids, they choose between an IB an AP track, the IB is much less flexible:

    AB:

    Math:
    Algebra 2
    Pre Calc
    AP Calc BC
    DE or AP Stats - there are usually 5 or so who are an additional year accelerated and take Calc BC as sophomores.

    English:
    H English 9
    H English 10
    AP Language
    AP Lit

    Foreign Language
    H French/ Spanish 1
    H French/ Spanish 2
    H French/Spanish 3
    H French/Spanish 4 - if you are ready for Spanish 2 as Freshman can take AP Spanish, don't offer AP French so would be done Jr year if you're accelerated.

    Social studies
    H World History
    H US History
    AP Government
    AP US History or AP Economics

    Science
    H Biology
    H Chemistry/Physics
    AP Chemistry or AP Biology or AP Physics 1



    For IB
    Math:
    Algebra 2
    Pre Calc
    IB Math SL
    IB Math HL or Calc BC kids beginning Geometry only get to SL, kids without Geometry typically go IB Math Studies

    English:
    PIB English 9
    PIB English 10
    IB English HL 1
    IB English HL 2 (there is no option for less than HL for English)

    Foreign Language
    H French/ Spanish 1
    H French/ Spanish 2
    H French/Spanish 3
    IB French/Spanish SL - if you are ready for Spanish 2 as Freshman can take AP Spanish, don't offer AP French so would be done Jr year if you're accelerated.

    Social studies
    PIB World History
    PIB US History
    IB Econ SL/IB World History HL 1
    IB World History HL 2

    Science
    PIB Biology
    PIB Chemistry/Physics
    IB Biology/Chemistry/Physics SL
    IB Biology/Chemistry/Physicis HL

    While in IB there is an Arts for the 6th area, 90% of kids take a second science instead, either to SL or HL.






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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 2078 replies33 threads Senior Member
    @RichInPitt do kids take Algebra I and geometry in middle school?

    Yes, Honors track is Algebra 1 in 7th, Honors Geo in 8th (30% of students. They have to take do some summer cyber coursework between 6th and 7th.)

    For reference:
    Traditional is Pre-Algebra in 7th, Algebra 1 in 8th (60% of students)

    Concepts is Concepts of Pre-Algebra in 7th, Concepts of Algebra in 8th (10% of students)
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  • h8annahh8annah 405 replies28 threads Member
    The most advanced is:

    MATH
    -Algebra II H
    -PreCalculus H
    -AP Calc AB or AP Stats
    -AP Calc BC or AP Stats

    SCIENCE
    -Physical Science H (you used to be able to skip this)
    -Biology Honors
    -Chemistry H or AP Chem
    -Physics H, AP Physics 1, APES, or AP Bio

    English
    -English 9 H
    -English 10 H
    -AP English Language or English 11 H
    -AP English Literature or Two Honors English Electives (Creative Writing, Brit Lit, etc.)

    History
    -World History H
    -US History H or APUSH
    -US Gov Honors + halfyear elective or AP US Gov (full year)
    -No social science, AP Psych, AP Euro

    World Lanuage
    -Spanish II H
    -Spanish III H
    -Spanish IV H
    -AP Spanish
    Or, you can start with Italian I A, French I A, or Latin I A and move on
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  • momtogirls2momtogirls2 947 replies7 threads Member
    @RichInPitt gym and health in 7th grade counts as a high school credit? We have to take gym in k-8 every single year and health is taught at least in middle school years but they absolutely would not count as high school gym/health here. Just curious since you mentioned 7th grade.

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  • Beyou2022Beyou2022 75 replies27 threads Junior Member
    At my son’s school there are too many combinations to fit in here, but the typical core path for math&science-oriented kids looks like this:

    Math
    - Precalc
    - AP Calc AB
    - Calculus DE
    - Differential Eq / Linear Algebra DE

    English
    - English Honors
    - AP Lang
    - AP Lit
    - English Literature DE

    Social Sciences
    - AP World History
    - AP US Gov
    - AP US History
    - AP European History

    Science I
    - Biology Honors
    - Chemistry Honors
    - Electronics
    - AP Computer Science A

    Science II
    - AP Physics I
    - AP Physics II
    - AP Physics C
    - AP Biology or AP Chemistry
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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 2078 replies33 threads Senior Member
    edited February 17
    @RichInPitt gym and health in 7th grade counts as a high school credit? We have to take gym in k-8 every single year and health is taught at least in middle school years but they absolutely would not count as high school gym/health here. Just curious since you mentioned 7th grade.

    No, the four semesters (two full credits) of gym and one semester of Health needed to graduate HS need be in HS - 9th through 12. (Health is in 10th on the standard schedule). There are a few cyber/summer options for both.

    Two semesters of gym and one of Health are required to “graduate” Middle School, which is just 7th and 8th.

    And gym/phys ed are part of normal elementary school schedules, so gym every year and dedicated health classes in 7th and 10th (both require passing CPR certification).

    edited February 17
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  • XtremeBlaze777XtremeBlaze777 156 replies16 threads Junior Member
    edited February 17
    English (4 yrs required):
    9 HN
    10 HN
    AP Lang
    AP Lit

    Social Studies (4 yrs required):
    World 1 HN
    World 2 HN or AP World
    APUSH
    AP US Gov (full year) or AP Combined US & Comp Gov (one course rather than two 1/2 semester courses)

    Math (3 yrs required, 4 recommended; school is debating whether to add a new math course because of the number of juniors in multivar):
    A2 HN
    Precalc Trig HN
    AP Calc BC
    Multivar calc / Matrix Algebra

    Science (3 DIFFERENT sciences required, 4 recommended):
    Bio HN
    Chem HN
    AP Physics 1 / APES / AP Bio / AP Chem
    AP Physics 1 / AP Physics C (both) / APES / AP Bio / AP Chem

    Foreign Language (either 3 yrs of 1 language or 2 yrs of 2)
    Year 2
    Year 3
    Year 4 HN / AP
    AP / Year 5 HN

    2 years of Health/PE (includes one quarter of Drivers education)

    1 year of Econ (AP Micro/Macro or an online Pass/Fail course)

    1 year of Career/Technology Education or Fine Arts

    Also, for some reason, the school requires you to take at least one of your courses online so I took the Pass/Fail Econ course over the summer which counted.
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  • thatshot....thatshot.... 24 replies9 threads Junior Member
    Most kids at your school take precalc in 9th grade to take multivariable calculus in 11th grade?
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  • XtremeBlaze777XtremeBlaze777 156 replies16 threads Junior Member
    edited February 18
    @thatshot.... In order to take multivar as a junior, yes you need to take precalc as a freshman. This is, however, very rare. Class of 2020 had only one student on this track. For some reason, the class of 2021 saw an increase in the number of students doing this. I doubt there are more than 10 (I actually have no idea) but this is out of 600 kids per class so barely any. I will say, there is a freshman in multivar right now (O_O) so I can only assume they will eventually have to add more math classes. I personally think this is ridiculous, they are unnecessarily pushing kids forward this advanced in math. I won't encounter multivar in high school at all and I think that path makes sense, I can barely imagine what sophomores feel in BC when they haven't been exposed to rigorous or AP courses yet.
    edited February 18
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