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SF Gate: It's time to deal with students who cheat

pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
edited April 2008 in High School Life
I was completely shocked and sickened to hear how rampant cheating has become in schools. I knew it happened, but in this amount? Ridiculous.

It's time to deal with students who cheat



The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it.
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  • isosohungyisosohungy 25 replies7 threads New Member
    Cheating is never a new thing to students. Cheaters in the long run, however, will eventually get what they deserve.
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  • pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
    I mean, I know that loads of students do it, but the percentage, and how administrations turn a blind eye... I dunno, maybe I'm naive

    And my school uses TurnItIn too, but the sad thing is that in the article, teachers and principles etc refuse to acknowledge the cheating


    "Gerald Fisher, a consulting professor of physics at Stanford, told of a student whose practice was to take an exam, then bring it back for a regrade, claiming the graders had missed material she'd written. "She did this on each of the midterms," wrote Fisher. Then, after the final, when she predictably came back for a regrade, Fisher revealed that he had photocopied her original, which lacked the material that now appeared, and filed charges against her with the Office of Judicial Affairs.


    She was "let go scot free" and Fisher was disciplined for violating the university's honor code by copying her exam. "
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  • arwen15arwen15 744 replies60 threads Member
    There is a service called TurnitIn that is used heavily at my Public
    HS and a host of other schools and colleges that helps combat
    the type of behavior noted in the article.

    Technology as usual is an answer to what could become a growing
    moral malaise....
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  • Nickel XenonNickel Xenon 3043 replies27 threads Senior Member
    I know a guy that has his phone out during tests and the teacher says nothing. -_-
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  • pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
    In my math class, people openly cheat. I mean, they literally hand their tests to each other to copy, throw paper notes with answers in them to each other, etc.
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  • darnfancylettucedarnfancylettuce 118 replies14 threads Junior Member
    75% D: damn. Maybe I am a chum for not cheating.
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  • House of LondonHouse of London 1222 replies46 threads- Senior Member
    Isn't cheating on the SAT tests impossible because they have different test so if youre copying from the person sitting adjacent to you, you'll end up getting the wrong answers. Thats what I heard.

    Its funny because cheating on the SAT is way different than cheating for school exams. In school you know whose smart and whose not but on the SATs its random people you barely know so its hard to fish out the intellegent ones versus thse who are not.
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  • yesnomaybeso7yesnomaybeso7 142 replies37 threads Junior Member
    As a student I see so much cheating it's ridiculous. My history teacher makes us use turnitin.com on our papers to check for plagerism, but for us most people don't plagerize on papers. The cheating that goes on at our school involves tests and homework, and I'm shocked at how teachers seem to be ignorant of it. One girl positioned her backpack so that during a test she had a whole sheet of notes propped up so she could cheat, but ironically I still got a better grade then her and she eventually dropped the class.
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  • Nickel XenonNickel Xenon 3043 replies27 threads Senior Member
    I don't actually see much cheating on tests. I only know of one person and he's not in my class. The only time I see it is homework and it's not an every day thing either it's more of a, "Holy cracker I spent all my time studying for English and forgot this assignment! Someone help me out!" kind of thing. Or I see kids comparing answers in large groups, though I don't know if that really counts as cheating if they all got an answer on the homework.
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  • jessiehljessiehl 3296 replies32 threads Senior Member
    Gerald Fisher, a consulting professor of physics at Stanford, told of a student whose practice was to take an exam, then bring it back for a regrade, claiming the graders had missed material she'd written. "She did this on each of the midterms," wrote Fisher. Then, after the final, when she predictably came back for a regrade, Fisher revealed that he had photocopied her original, which lacked the material that now appeared, and filed charges against her with the Office of Judicial Affairs.

    I was on MIT's Committee On Discipline, and we heard some very similar types of cases.

    I can assure you that they were not let off scot free. Far from it.
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  • pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
    They weren't copying other SAT tests, they would go back to sections they hadn't finished during the test, and complete them (i.e. doing the English section while the rest of the test-takers were doing Math).


    Some student even write answers on the palms of their hands, and just keep them flat on the desk whenever a teacher walks by.


    And hopefully, jessiehl. It's like adults have to baby-sit students even more now, slapping their wrists when they misbehave (cheat), and reminding them it's a "no-no".
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  • NorthstarmomNorthstarmom 24049 replies804 threads Senior Member
    "The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it."

    Did you report them? Students who see peers cheating, but don't report them are reinforcing the cheating that's going on.
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  • pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
    I called in, but I don't think any further steps were taken.
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  • CoCo 634 replies11 threads- Member
    Cheating, so horrible. It's right up their with Darfur and Ugandan child soldiers.
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  • Anon_Person_1Anon_Person_1 2377 replies76 threads Senior Member
    i can honestly say that 99% of the kids at my school cheat. I have never cheated, but there are so few people in my grade that I can tell you that basically everyone cheats.
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  • HisGraceFillsMeHisGraceFillsMe 4528 replies254 threads Senior Member
    Cono-You really think it's okay to get a grade that you didn't legitimately earned, that could later help you get into a college you don't deserve?

    Well at least we know where your morals lie.

    A lot of the kids at my school cheat. They get away with it a lot of the time, but sometimes they do get caught.
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  • pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
    Plus, we're not comparing it to world travesties. But we're also not saying it's perfectly fine to do, just because there are bigger things in the world that are happening. It’s like saying that a child being bullied mercilessly on a playground is no big deal, because other people have it harder. Neither is 'ok'.
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  • House of LondonHouse of London 1222 replies46 threads- Senior Member
    or maybe Cono isn't being so sarcastic after all.-Just a thought.

    "The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it."

    Did you report them? Students who see peers cheating, but don't report them are reinforcing the cheating that's going on."


    Honestly Northstarmom, who would stop in the middle of taking an exam in which you have a limited amount of time to report cheaters? Reporting eats away a lot of time that could be spent doing quite a few problems that can in turn, make a difference in your score. I wouldn't really care whether or not one cheats on an SAT. It's not worth actually taking my time off to acknowledge and besides, I don't necessarily see it as condoning the cheating; rather just not acknowledging it because we all know snitching isn't cute in high school these days.

    Overall, cheaters never prosper and unfortunately they'll just have to learn the hard way.
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  • CoCo 634 replies11 threads- Member
    Well at least we know where your morals lie.

    I fear not the judgement that comes from a rider of the high horse.

    But I'm flattered that you care to know the whereabouts a random user of the internet's morals. Of course, cheating is clearly the best determinant of morals; those kids copying the last few problems on today's math homework are tomorrow's serial killers.
    Plus, we're not comparing it to world travesties.

    If one didn't know any better, it could easily be construed that way if you've seen the way some users on this forum discuss it.
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  • pamplemousse25pamplemousse25 287 replies19 threads Member
    Yes, but this forum isn't about the devastations in the modern world. It's about trying to get into college, and attending college, and everything you could think about regarding college. So of course, a scandalous situation regarding college admissions is bound to be treated as a big deal, because it pertains to the subject of the website we are on.

    I didn’t post this thread to get into a fight over what’s more important in the world. I posted it for others to be aware. I don’t think you understand that.
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