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GED, skip some high school grades

samiestsamiest Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
My DD is gifted. She scored very high in SAT in Grade 7 without studying. She is going to Grade 8 in the Fall. To challenge her, she takes some online classes and summer camps from CTY (Intensive) and Duke TIP (center). I believe that she can pass the GED test. We are thinking of having her staying in high school till Grade 10 because we do not want her go to college due to her age. After grade 10, she can write the GED test. Can you apply to university with GED test and high SAT score? She wants to be a doctor.

Replies to: GED, skip some high school grades

  • Mom2aphysicsgeekMom2aphysicsgeek Registered User Posts: 3,736 Senior Member
    You are intertwining multiple issues. Simplistically, since you are homeschooling, you determine grade level. If you want to call 7th grade 9th, if she is doing high school level work, you can. She can graduate at 15 having completed high school.

    Depending on your state, she might not need to take the GED. Depending on your POV, she will have the stigma of the GED. (I personally would much rather my kids have a high school diploma than the GED.)

    All that said, I have some very advanced kids and we don't graduate them early. It doesn't mean they spend high school completing high school level courses. They take appropriate level courses. For example, I have had a student graduate with credit for multivariable, diffEQ, linear alg 1&2, cal-based physics 1&2, modern, physical mechanics 1& 2, etc. He dual enrolled at our local universities.

    What schools do you think she would apply to? Graduating early with a GED will put her at a serious disadvantage for admissions at competitive schools. There are ZERO bonus pts for graduating early. None. She will be competing against equally advanced kids who have accomplished far more academically bc they pursued 2 more yrs of coursework and have additional yrs of outside pursuits on their resumes.
  • PentaprismPentaprism Registered User Posts: 376 Member
    My D got into a flagship state school when she was 16, graduated at 19, and now a PhD student. She didn't take GED. I'm not sure about now, but at the time, in CA, a person has to be at least 18 yrs old to take GED.

    Her stats were excellent, however: 2360 SAT (old score, 1 sitting), 4 SAT subjects (lowest score: 790), 7 AP exams (all 5). She also had 27 units of college-level classes (higher than AP, evaluated by the university she matriculated at) from the work she did at Stanford EPGY.

    So yes, it is possible, even without GED.
  • AroundHereAroundHere Registered User Posts: 2,566 Senior Member
    The Hoagies Gifted website has a list of colleges with early entrance programs for young students.
  • DadTwoGirlsDadTwoGirls Registered User Posts: 2,827 Senior Member
    I think that it is quite tough going to university early. I turned 17 the week before I went off to a very stressful (and well known) university, and I don't think that it was actually a good idea. Anything younger than this would be worse still IMHO. For me the academics at university was NOT the issue, everything else was the issue.
  • shuttlebusshuttlebus Registered User Posts: 157 Junior Member
    Are you homeschooling now? Have you checked into how the GED is viewed by the admission committees of medical school? If your child graduates two years earlier than usual, will she still have all of the typical science and math credits:AP BC Calc, AP Physics C (both mechanics and E&M),AP Chemistry, AP Bio, etc.?

    If you are homeschooling, there a many ways that you can challenge a gifted kid and have her graduate from high school at the typical age. The GED is viewed negatively by many. I would not recommend that route under your circumstances.
  • bjkmombjkmom Registered User Posts: 4,673 Senior Member
    Check you state Ed. Dept website. Many states have a minimum age of 18-- some 19-- to take the GED.

    And I agree- a high school diploma looks better to some people.
  • PentaprismPentaprism Registered User Posts: 376 Member
    Have you checked into how the GED is viewed by the admission committees of medical school?

    I don't think ad coms at medical schools care about anything before college.
  • shuttlebusshuttlebus Registered User Posts: 157 Junior Member
    ^ Are you sure about that? I know that medical schools ask for ACT/SAT scores and whether or not an applicant was recognized by National Merit. In light of this, I wouldn't be surprised if they also asked where the applicant graduated from high school.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 24,918 Senior Member
    What sort of university are you thinking? Will she have the extracurriculars? And right, she could be taking college classes now, as a high schooler.

    But even more, do you know what it takes, beyond a degree and some good scores, to get into different sorts of colleges, for different majors?
  • samiestsamiest Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    I am just confused as what to do with my DD. She is going to Grade 8 in the Fall. She is already in accelerated math program and will finish AP Calculus BC by Grade 10. She also does well in her English in SAT. She is not challenged in her current grade. Is there a way to skip a grade or 2 in high school. We are thinking of perhaps just write the GED and do homeschooling to get to University at an earlier age. We want DD to go to California University likes Davis or UCLA or Berkeley. I am wondering if California has the similar program as in Texas TAMS program where high school kid studies in University. TAMS is only open to Texas resident.
  • samiestsamiest Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    edited July 17
    How do kid finish 7 AP exams and 27 units of college-level classes and 4 SAT subjects by the age of 16. If you go to public and private school, my child stuck at Grade 8 and cannot take classes beyond her grade. She is lucky that her current school allow her to take accelerated math program. How can you take high-level classes and count toward high school's diploma. Can you dual enroll both in a local university and doing getting the high school dipolma at the same time? We are in the Bay Area.
  • Mom2aphysicsgeekMom2aphysicsgeek Registered User Posts: 3,736 Senior Member
    @samiest You posted your original question on the homeschooling forum. As homeschooled students, as the parent, I decide what my kids take. If I have a young student ready for college level material, I make the decision, not school administrators. Lots of homeschooled kids start dual enrolling in college based on ability, not age. Students dual enrolling take college level classes as high school students, so they are earning college credit and their high school diploma simultaneously. How that works in individual states differs. I don't live in CA, so I cannot speak directly toward CA law.

    Have you investigated the accelerated student resources in your area? Math circles? Art of Problem Solving courses? Or AoPS forums (good place to ask questions)? Online local groups for gifted students? I know several families through online groups with extremely advanced kids who live in CA and homeschool. One has a ds who was just accepted to Berkeley as an UG at a very young age. The student had completed multiple upper level math courses before he was even a teen. Another's ds scored a 5 on BC at age 12.

    But what you are able to do within the school system, I have no idea. You need to redirect your question to a different forum if your student is in public school.

    Fwiw, students can DE at Berkeley. http://extension.berkeley.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=4606656 How that works for ps students, again, I have no idea.
  • DadTwoGirlsDadTwoGirls Registered User Posts: 2,827 Senior Member
    edited July 18
    I think that being very gifted, or dealing with a very gifted kid, can be very challenging. To me there are at least three aspects of this:
    - appropriate academic coursework
    - having a social life
    - waiting until the student is sufficiently mature in non-academic ways before they go off on their own to university.

    I think that it is a mistake to focus only on the first issue. The other two are important also. Unfortunately, at least through high school, being exceptionally intelligent also means being "different" from other kids.

    I am quite sure that I don't have all the answers, but suspect that the best answers will vary according to the kids individual personality and the parents resources.
  • samiestsamiest Registered User Posts: 16 New Member
    How does high school home schooling apply to college and university? Home School students doesn't get high school diploma or do they? IF they do, how? How do they get the AP classes?
  • Mom2aphysicsgeekMom2aphysicsgeek Registered User Posts: 3,736 Senior Member
    Yes, they get a high school diploma. How? Issued by the parent who has complied with state educational laws. Homeschooling is legal in all 50 states as a form of k12 education.

    Homeschool students apply to colleges and universities across the country. They are accepted to elite schools, earn competitive scholarships, etc. I have been homeschooling since the early 90s. I have a ds who is a chemE, a current college student who will be applying to grad school the fall for physics, a rising college freshman who was awarded a university's competitive scholarship, etc. I have friends whose kids have graduated from their homeschool and attended Stanford, MIT, Berkeley, Princeton. I know homeschooled class of 2017 grads who were awarded Vandy's Cornelius, W&M's 1693, a full-ride scholarship to Duke, etc.

    Students can study AP courses at home, enroll in AP courses online, enroll in local homeschool AP courses, etc. Parents can submit AP syllabi to College Board for approval and can label courses AP on transcripts.

    Some examples of online courses are

    Students do not have to enroll through a designated program. They can study homemade courses. They can study via courses like MIT's opencourseware, etc. There are as many ways to homeschool as there are homeschool families. (I can pretty much state unequivocally that my homeschool is not anything like the majority of the posters on this forum. My homeschool does not resemble a school at home environment. My kids take very untraditional type courses. It works for us.)

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