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Cornell is now what you can call a “Public Ivy”?

RiversiderRiversider Registered User Posts: 399 Member
Often good public schools are labelled as “Public Ivies” by their loyal who wants to add prestige but for first time we really have a school we can call a real Public Ivy. There acceptance rate is higher than all Ivies and othertop 20 schools, they are huge and offer several public programs.
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Replies to: Cornell is now what you can call a “Public Ivy”?

  • RiversiderRiversider Registered User Posts: 399 Member
    edited March 30
    It sure has been an Ivy but now it’s a huge school with many public schools and higher acceptance rates unlike other ivies.
  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 Registered User Posts: 5,129 Senior Member
    What "first time"?

    Cornell was established as part of a land grant and as such has a mission to serve the residents of NY state. Three of the seven colleges within Cornell are contract colleges and receive state money. That said, Cornell is primarily a private institution and has been part of the Ivy League, a football conference, since its inception in the 50s.

    Cornell has always had the "highest" acceptance rate in the Ivy League. Nothing new. It was 10.6% this cycle - 3/10th higher than last year.



  • jmk518jmk518 Registered User Posts: 327 Member
    Public Ivy is not a label just used by loyals. There is a context to the term and it applies to specific schools - UVA, UNC, W&M, UVM, Michigan, Miami of Ohio, UCB and UTA if I am recalling them correctly.
  • RiversiderRiversider Registered User Posts: 399 Member
    It was a label coined by an author. There is no real context.
  • RiversiderRiversider Registered User Posts: 399 Member
    edited March 30
    It’s news as ALL other elites saw big increase in applications and decrease in acceptance rate.
  • jmk518jmk518 Registered User Posts: 327 Member
    That IS the context in which the term is used. I'm not familiar with people using the term with schools they are fans of as you suggest.

    Is your point to identify that Cornell has a higher acceptance rate than the other schools in the same athletic league, or that individuals can be admitted through the public university system? Neither has anything to do with the public Ivy term that is only used to associate quality of academics.
  • RiversiderRiversider Registered User Posts: 399 Member
    This term literally defines today’s Cornell, no matter how it was used in the past.
  • intparentintparent Registered User Posts: 36,437 Senior Member
    Um. Your post makes no sense. Cornell is an ivy (yup, has been for a long time). Cornell is a public university (yup, has been for a long time). Nothing is new. Maybe it is news to you...
  • sushirittosushiritto Registered User Posts: 3,043 Senior Member
    The top public universities in the US are, in no particular order:

    UF, UCB, UCLA, UMIch, UVA, GT, etc. Cornell is a private institution and an Ivy, I’m confused why it’s being debated.
  • monydadmonydad Registered User Posts: 7,875 Senior Member
    edited March 31
    (got timed out)
    Also, Penn has close to the same enrollment as Cornell, it just has more grad students vs undergrads.

    As for the rest, as others have posted, there is really nothing new here, everyone who has been following things over the years already knows all this, for a long time already.

    The Ivy League is what it is. and has been, like forever. And includes Cornell.
    Cornell is what it is, which is a little weird. But it has been, like forever.
    The endowed division of Cornell does not even receive state funding. There is really no way to construe these as "public".
  • CupCakeMuffinsCupCakeMuffins Registered User Posts: 817 Member
    edited March 31
    Its a stupid term but to be fair, Cornell has more in common with UT or UVA than with Princeton or Yale.

    By the way, what is the reason for their applications going down when every top 20 school recieved record breaking numbers of applicants?
  • CU123CU123 Registered User Posts: 3,073 Senior Member
    If you go that route and I agree with it to some degree then it has a lot more in common with Penn.
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