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Johns Hopkins vs. Cornell/Brown

soshisoshi Registered User Posts: 63 Junior Member
edited October 2009 in Johns Hopkins University
Which is harder to get in to (in general), Johns Hopkins, Cornell, or Brown?
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Replies to: Johns Hopkins vs. Cornell/Brown

  • WealthOfInformationWealthOfInformation Registered User Posts: 2,022 Senior Member
    Hopkins 1st year class: 1250
    Brown 1st year class: 1540
    Cornell 1st year class: 3100

    They are all competitive based on selection so I don't think you can generalize. I think Cornell is deceivingly large and Hopkins is similarly deceivingly small. All are great places for the right student. They are all looking for different things too.

    Apples and Oranges...
  • _idk__idk_ Registered User Posts: 142 Junior Member
    brown is the tougher school to get into, i think. that said you could be rejected by hopkins and cornell but get into brown and vice versa. each school will be looking for similar yet different types of students, if you catch my drift.
  • syc652syc652 Registered User Posts: 214 Junior Member
    It totally depends on what you're applying as and where. EX. JHU BME is harder than Cornell Agricultural Sciences.
  • soshisoshi Registered User Posts: 63 Junior Member
    I forgot to mention-- Hopkins non-BME. I'm much more interested in Humanities and such (I'm not at all the math/science type)... probably majoring in English Literature or something similar.

    According to the Fiske Guide Profile for JHU, "For non-premeds, much easier to get into than other top-tier schools." Is this actually true? I really hope so...
  • WealthOfInformationWealthOfInformation Registered User Posts: 2,022 Senior Member
    I don't think it's easier to be admitted; I think JHU's humanities programs are top ranked particularly English and the Writing Seminars major. That being said, Hopkins does attract a lot of science kids.

    Take ol' Fiske with a grain of salt...
  • SezonSezon Registered User Posts: 173 Junior Member
    Brown(Most selective) > Cornell> John Hopkins(Least selective). Of course, none are "easy" to get into.
  • _idk__idk_ Registered User Posts: 142 Junior Member
    sezon, what exactly are you basing your inequality on? admissions rate? that's not enough to determine which school is more selective. ex. school A gets 30 thousand applications, 10 thousand have 3.8+ 2100+. school B has 20 thousand applicants, 10 thousand 3.8+ 2100+. school A has a lower admit rate (lets say 20%) than school b (25%). now, if we assume both schools only consider grades and SATs, does this mean school a is more selective? that's not necessarily true. you have to consider even more than the strength of the students applying and the strength of the students who get accepted; you have to consider all selection criteria and their relative weights.

    that said, i think you could claim brown is the most selective and that would be fine. i cannot agree with you saying cornell is more selective. both schools are just as tough to get into, despite the 5 or so % difference in admissions rate.
  • IBclass06IBclass06 Registered User Posts: 2,846 Senior Member
    _idk_ wrote:
    despite the 5 or so % difference in admissions rate.
    8.2%, to be exact.

    Cornell A&S/Eng: 18.6%
    JHU A&S/Eng: 26.8%

    Cornell: 38% are ED
    JHU: 37% are ED

    Cornell (enrolled)
    SAT CR 630-730
    SAT M 670-770
    ACT 29-33

    JHU (enrolled)
    SAT CR 630-740
    SAT M 660-770
    ACT 29-33

    Keep in mind that Cornell has other applicants (CALS, Hotel, etc.) that bring down the overall test scores.


    Cornell CAS has a lower admit rate with test scores on par with or higher than JHU's. I would therefore consider Cornell more selective than Hopkins, although of course I agree with you in that a student could get into Brown but not Hopkins.
  • _idk__idk_ Registered User Posts: 142 Junior Member
    where are you getting those admissions stats from? the rate rounds up to 25% this year for hopkins, according to the admissions office. i cant comment on cornell's however.

    also, like i said, you have took at the students that are applying to the school. if they both get around the same amount of qualified applicants, but one school gets more applicants overall, then because one acceptance rate is lower does not make the school more selective. and, again, you also need to factor in admissions criteria and weighting.
  • IBclass06IBclass06 Registered User Posts: 2,846 Senior Member
    _idk_ wrote:
    the rate rounds up to 25% this year for hopkins, according to the admissions office.
    No, it doesn't. That's where I got my admit rate from.

    Hopkins Undergraduate Admissions :: Fast Facts
  • _idk__idk_ Registered User Posts: 142 Junior Member
    oh, i guess i was thinking about last year then. whoops.
  • Phead128Phead128 Registered User Posts: 2,091 Senior Member
    Hopkins is ranked higher than Cornell and Brown. :D

    YES. I finally said it. Mwahahahaha. :runs away:
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