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Replies to: McGill is 1st tier internationally.

  • llldllld Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    As well as Newsweek Uni Rankings. It ranked McGill top 50.

    2007 Mclean's Ranking:
    http://www.macleans.ca/education/universities/amedical.pdf
  • drmambodrmambo Registered User Posts: 459 Member
    What the h3ll is the point of this thread? You didn't need post over half of those links (seeing as they just site the London Times #12 ranking), and you realize the "McGill renamed Harvard of the North" link is actually a satirical piece, right?

    Something tells me you might be attending here next year. That same something tells me you might be in store for a big surprise once you get here.
  • llldllld Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    It is, I was just try to prove McGill IS sometimes called as "Harvard of Canada".
    Then go find a better source. perhap this one? Urban Dictionary: mcgill

    My point is to prove McGill is in generally considered to be Harvard of Canada
  • drmambodrmambo Registered User Posts: 459 Member
    You don't really need to prove that to anyone, seeing as the reference is pointless. You shouldn't be going to the "Harvard" of anything just because it's the got Harvard in its (nick)name. If anything, you're only perpetuating a stereotype that we care if people think we're the best in canada or not.

    By your reactions, I'm gonna assume your American, so I guess I'll cut you some slack. Talk to any canadian, very few apply to places because of ranking alone. Anyone you meet next year will tell you McGill isn't truly the best in canada. It's good for certain things, but it's also mediocre for others.

    All you're doing now is disseminating a false idea of what McGill is/how it's student body feels about it.
  • llldllld Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    if you been to places like University of Toronto or UBC then you will see how great McGill is compare to these. (UofT has the largest students in North America 60000+ by the way)
  • BIGTWIXBIGTWIX Registered User Posts: 2,440 Senior Member
    i don't really get what you are trying to justify. McGill is a great school.
    to say "tier 1" is a little overstepping it. At least at Grad school level, there is really a whole tier above McGill. I don't think you can top such schools as harvard, Stanford, cambridge, oxford, UCBerkeley, Columbia, MIT, and U Chicago.

    I guess it depends on how you define tier, but I don't see McGill quite at the level of those schools. It's an awesome school and great school, but doesnt seem to blow my mind whenever I hear about it.
  • llldllld Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    top tier isnt only 10 or 20 schools. to me, top 50 schools are definately considered to be top tier worldwide.
  • 1mike121mike12 Registered User Posts: 68 Junior Member
    first of all, illd is a stupid name. or is it LLLD?
    second, yes in general Mcgill is considered a rigorous school
    third, you need to realize the difference between what people say and reality. I don't think you realize the correlation between ranking and your success and happiness at a given school (aka NONE). The perception and reality is always different. Like when you saw that one kid and you thought "what a ****" but then he turned out to be a pretty chill guy. I frankly am not happy with my choice of McGill and think I might of fit in more at other schools.

    You give too much precedence to ranking. Would you rather be waving around a #12 sign around without anyone giving a hoot or would you rather be at school #whatever and having a good time? Most people choose to be happy and successful, but boasting is pretty good too if that's your cup of tea.
  • syzoninsyzonin Registered User Posts: 149 Junior Member
    this guy is a ********. need proof other than this thread? go look at his past threads, especially the ones regarding Queens....
  • BIGTWIXBIGTWIX Registered User Posts: 2,440 Senior Member
    IIId, if you are going to classify schools into tears, do you really think that McGill graduate studies is equal in status to the likes of Columbia, Berkeley, harvard, cambridge, UChicago, etc.

    I personally don't and thus don't see McGill fit to be "tier 1", as my regards to McGill are not the same as my regards to those schools.

    McGill gets some pretty great research done, but in terms of merit, those schools are busting out of their seams with Nobel prizes and such.
  • llldllld Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    Im not sure but I still think top 50 ~ top 100 is 1st tier. McGill doesnt have same reputation as these super elite US schools and I never compare McGill to these schools in the first place.
  • llldllld Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
  • wii3wii3 Registered User Posts: 10 New Member
    "Anyone you meet next year will tell you McGill isn't truly the best in canada."

    ^ yes because you see, in the US Harvard isnt truely the best either.
    1) Princeton ranked #1 in USnews,
    2) Columbia has the most Nobel Prize winners
    3) MIT's engineering is much more better than Harvard's
    4) Johns Hopkins has the the highest research funding.
    5) for politics Yale is the best.

    BUT generally Harvard is considered to be the best. McGill is exactly in the same situation. GENERALLY McGill is considered to be the best.

    Also, Harvard of Canada refers McGill's position within Canada just like how Harvard is best in the US, McGill is the best in Canada. He was not comparing McGill to any elite US schools.
  • drmambodrmambo Registered User Posts: 459 Member
    You sorta chopped the meaning of my quote, there. I meant McGill isn't always #1.

    You may think you gave my quote justice, but by citing objective facts...you killed it. It's not about rankings, or nobel prize winners (part of me believes the amount of nobel laureate alumni under a schools belt is as much chance as anything else...but that's a different issue), it's about academic rigor and quality.

    McGill excels in certain programs, and in others...falls short; however, no university is devoid of this problem (Harvard included).

    McGill's philosophy and political science programs are power houses, but how many of you knew that? How many of you have talked to professors (especially new ones) within those programs, and been told that even the staff are impressed at some of the tenure professors within their own departments?

    How many people here have taken an continuing education/fac. of education course at McGill?

    I think its time for some poster-accountability. If you don't know **** about McGill, don't post here. If you've got a link (that quotes straight from the horse's mouth), go ahead, though. If you've got an anecdote...think several times before you post it. Whether the oxygen is digital or not, why would you waste it?

    This isn't in response to wii3, this is in response to the growing populous of this board. Do your homework before you respond.

    If I'm guilty of violating any of the rules I've just laid down, it's probably because this rant is a bit too driven by mr. daniels, and whom ever owns colt 45.
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