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AOG scholarship program

CaitmarieCaitmarie Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
I just recieved my letter from AOG last week for my acceptance into the civil prep program. None of the junior colleges are near me, but I think I am going to Marion Military Institute in Alabama. I was wondering if anyone else is trying to make the decision for where to go or had any helpful tips. All in all though I am excited I am going to be part of USMA class of 2013!
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  • AnnAnn Registered User Posts: 1,477 Senior Member
    I don't have any direct Civil Prep experience, but I wanted to say: Congratulations!!
  • mom3boysmom3boys Registered User Posts: 771 Member
    One of my neighbors, a boy my son has known since he was 3 will be at Marion with you. It's a no-brainer to choose MMI when you live in GA; for you I know it must have been harder. Best wishes to you!! The parents who live close enough to visit will surely spoil you when they come to see their kiddos!
  • JesuspleaseUSMA!JesuspleaseUSMA! Registered User Posts: 91 Junior Member
    Caitmarie I will know by Thursday if USMAPS is out of the option for me I'm definitely going to MMI. It's the oldest most prestigious of the prep school's next to USMAPS; I've been in constant contact with David Bauer, and I live in Florida!
  • rty456rty456 Registered User Posts: 431 Member
    My S, currently 2010 cadet at USMA, went civil prep to NMMI. Civil Prep was a great opportunity and training for him.

    Congrats to all who receive this, it is a great way to get ot West Point
  • FWDADFWDAD Registered User Posts: 176 Junior Member
    My son is a plebe at West Point and went to MMI on an AOG Scholarship. He will tell you that the overall MMI experience was a good one and it helped prepare him for West Point. As an added benefit, he started his plebe year with a group of great friends and a better understanding of the military. COL Bauer, COL Thornton and Commander Stevenson are great teachers and did a fabulous job. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
  • ben448ben448 Registered User Posts: 23 New Member
    Weeks ago my Regional Admissions guy asked if I would like to be considered for this, so I said yes. However, I still haven't heard yet if I'm going to be put on the NWL or if a could snag an appointment. If I do end up getting into the civil prep program I'm not sure if I would got to MMI or NMMI.
  • CaitmarieCaitmarie Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    ben44- I was put on the national waiting list and then my regional admissions officer asked if i wanted to do civil prep. He asked me in the beginning of January though and I didn't find out I got into civil prep until last week. Just keep bugging your admissions officer on where you stand. It's what I did, I called like once a week with a question or something to add to my file and to see where I am standing in the application process. I honestly think that is part of the reason I recieved civil prep, that or my admissions officer was sick of me bugging him. :-)
    From what my admission officer told me, first you have to be deemed all qualified to be reviewed for civil prep. Then if USMA admissions thinks your a good canditate for west point, but probably wont be directly admitted this year your name is put on ranked list for civil prep. (I think the list is per region because according to him he put my name first for CT, but I am no where certain on this) This list then goes up to review by the board in charge of civil prep scholarships. I think the whole review stage is what makes it take so long. I wish the best of luck though!
    Also, to everyone else thanks for all the advice. I appreciate the tips and support!
  • FWDADFWDAD Registered User Posts: 176 Junior Member
    There seems to be some confusion about the relationships among USMAPS, MMI (or an AOG Scholarship) and the National Wait List. Based on what I was told over the last several years, here is my understanding:

    MMI and an AOG Scholarship. A candidate that is offered an AOG Scholarship meets the requirements for admission into the current year's class at West Point, but for space reasons can not be accommodated. There are many reasons why the candidate can not be accommodated including being from an overly competitive congressional districts, no availability from a congressional district, DoDMERB problems that didn't get fixed until late in the game, etc. By way of the AOG Scholarship they do get the next best thing, out of the normal competition process for a spot in the next West Point Class. It is often said that the recipient of an AOG Scholarship's place in the next class "is his or her spot to lose." The success rate for admission to West Point for candidates that complete a year on an AOG Scholarship is almost one hundred percent.


    An AOG Scholarship and the National Wait List. Just because you get are offerred or accept an AOG Scholarship does not mean that you won't be pulled off the National Wait List and offered a spot in the current class as the clock winds down to R Day. The letter that an AOG Scholarship recipient receives clearly states that accepting an AOG Scholarship does not preclude a candidate from being taken off the National Wait List and being given a spot in the current year's class.

    USMAPS. Candidates that are offered a spot at USMAPS for some reason are not deemed to be qualified for admission into the current year's class, but are candidates that the Admissions Office believe that with a little fine tuning, would make a good contribution to West Point the following year. Unlike an AOG Scholarship recipient they are in the military. I believe that if you are offered a spot in USMAPS, you are taken off the National Wait List for the current year.
  • momoftwinsmomoftwins Registered User Posts: 2,668 Senior Member
    FWDAD,

    Great summary. I'd like to add to the USMAPS points. "not deemed to be qualified for admission" refers only to academics. It is determined that the candidates need help with either their language arts/verbal OR math academics. USMAPS gets them ready. Again, it's a great opportunity to improve academic grounding, learn the basics on military life, and get to know a lot of future West Point classmates.
  • FWDADFWDAD Registered User Posts: 176 Junior Member
    Momoftwins is exactly right about academics and the offer of USMAPS. I should also add that graduates of USMAPS have a higher graduation rate from West Point than the general entering class. Graduates of USMAPS also start West Point knowing a bunch of folks and they do exceptionally well during Beast.
  • AnnAnn Registered User Posts: 1,477 Senior Member
    "I believe that if you are offered a spot in USMAPS, you are taken off the National Wait List for the current year."

    To clarify, only triple qualified candidates who have a nomination are put on the National Waiting List.

    AOG scholarships are awarded to candidates who are triple qualified, but have not won a cadetship. These scholarships are offered to candidates on the National Waiting List.

    USMAPS scholarships are usually offered to candidates who have great leadership potential but are not academically qualified. Since these candidates are usually not triple qualified they are not on the National Waiting List.

    Either scholarship is a great opportunity!
  • djfrrodjfrro Registered User Posts: 110 Junior Member
    My son is fininshing up his year at MMI, he received his appointment in early Feb. I really believe that it was the best course for him, he is ready for USMA. At MMI he learned to be a soldier, as well as a student. The academics for him at MMI were challenging and I think he is much more prepared for West Point than he would have been coming right out of high school
  • CaitmarieCaitmarie Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    I sent all the paperwork in for the AOG scholarship the other day, Marion is my top choice. So class of 2013 i will be. Also, thank you for everyone's insight it is extremely helpful!
  • TriggsTriggs Registered User Posts: 155 Junior Member
    I went to Marion last year with FWDAD's son, I'm also here if you've got any questions.
  • CaitmarieCaitmarie Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    What physical activities are offered that you are allowed to do MMI? (I was talking to Col Bauer and he mentioned that he limits the amount of activities you do) I was looking at their sports and they don't offer any that I currently do. I was just wondering what else they offered in that area. I appreciate it.
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