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Pretty much rejected


Replies to: Pretty much rejected

  • AmericanKidAmericanKid Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
    "Nice sarcasm funnyesp but according to West Point my reading and writting skills are on par."

    There wasn't an example of sarcasm in his post...
  • JesuspleaseUSMA!JesuspleaseUSMA! Registered User Posts: 91 Junior Member
    West Point hired me a tutor and he is tutoring me for the ACT I intend on bringing my scores up tremedously.
  • mom3boysmom3boys Registered User Posts: 771 Member
    What? USMA is paying for a tutor for you? That is the first I've heard of anything like that. They seem to really want you to be successful so you can attend. I am curious: are you part of an under-represented segment of the overall population?
  • p-piperp-piper Registered User Posts: 44 Junior Member
    This does not sound believable. That is what civil prep and USMAPS are for.
  • friartown09friartown09 Registered User Posts: 84 Junior Member
    JPUSMA, can I ask you what your other stats are? I don't understand why WP wouldn't just send you to a prep school ....what do you do that makes your app. so desirable? I think you said that you aren't a recruited athlete correct? would you mind posting your resume?
  • JesuspleaseUSMA!JesuspleaseUSMA! Registered User Posts: 91 Junior Member
    West Point has a tutor for hire already they are not paying for it; he helps thousands of prep students yearly I believe. His techniques are awsome! I'm only 17 but I've read SO much from West Point and I never heard about this guy. He works specifically for West Point and he has a 703 (Virginia area code) and is a great guy. He know's so much about test strategy's; I don't want to give away too much information about him, I'm not sure if West Point wants me to do that. My admission's officer forwarded my file to my other admission's officer after seeing my last SAT scores and he sent me the tutor's information.

    I know you guys won't believe me but if any you have questions for me I have NO problem giving out ANY of my information my # is: (352)344-8275.

    Here's my resume I forewarn you it's horrible:

    Citrus High School (Senior)
    African American/ Native American Male
    Floral City, Florida 34436
    No nominations except presidential
    GPA Unweighted: 2.75 (going to be going up just received a B in physics honors)
    Weighted: 3.03 (going to be going up just took finals)
    My GPA for the State of Florida: 2.98 (going up and will receive 75% Bright Futures)
    Passed the FCAT on first try(doesn't matter just throwing it in)
    Talked to all my admissions officers since 11th grade almost daily
    Got rejected from West Point and SLS
    SAT Scores: 590 English 460 Math 530 Writing (those are my highest)
    440 English 310 Math 410 Writing (those are my lowest I believe)

    ACT Composite: 18

    ummm... Boy's State 1st person in 15 years not elected to a position to write the best bill of the house of representatives
    2+2 Schlorship (spelled wrong; full tuiton to TCC and FSU $250 yearly for books)

    raised in Fort Campbell, Kentucky till I was 9 I put that on my West Point essay

    Wrote a side letter to admissions officers about how bad I wanted into West Point or a prep school

    75 hours community service
    nothing spectacular guys I HOOAH'd my physical I listed my stats before check my past post for them; I'm fully qualified by DODMERB, Key Club officer, Cross Country, Track, Girl's Basketball Manager, Academic Team, Chess Club, Spanish Club

    3 on AP World History
    2 on AP English

    there is probably more but I think you get the gist of it. I just want it REALLY BAD. I wish you all the best of luck but here's a tip if you want something bad in life express to everyone around you how much and how bad you want it.
  • JesuspleaseUSMA!JesuspleaseUSMA! Registered User Posts: 91 Junior Member
    To be honest with you guys I didn't know any thing about West Point most of my life and I got into the game pretty late. When I have kids if they want to go to West Point I'm starting that with the SAT/ACT study as early as the 5th grade. So they will have 8 years of study. I used to live on a military base yeah and I watched USMA's glory in the 90's but I didn't start my true learning until my sophomore year when I saw cadets doing drill in a history book. I got interested and have been in contact with USMA ever since; there is no guarentee for me and May or April are my final chances this year to try and shine. If not I'll just have to start the entire application process over again with everyone else; which I have no problem with. Thankly West Point is holding my admissions file over another year either way.
  • bulletandpimabulletandpima Registered User Posts: 9,826 Senior Member
    Here's my resume I forewarn you it's horrible

    I think this is why people are shocked. The books closed, but USMA is allowing you to take another SAT to get in. I personally find it interesting that you are on the academic team with your gpa/sat scores.

    Remember many applicants are not getting selected and they are questioning why you are getting this extra time. It is nothing about you personally, it is them questioning what is it that USMA is going the further route.

    I personally suspect that you have a great personal story and it is your strive and character that USMA has seen.

    Kepp moving foward, studying and all you ever need to do is look at yourself and say I gave 110%, I did everything I could. The very best of luck.

    BTW, when you have kids studying for the SAT in 5th grade won't help...maybe studying when they have completed ALG., but the biggest way to turn off any child in education is to scare them out of their mind (test anxiety)

    Don't worry nobody is questioning you per se, they are just trying to understand the situation.
  • JustAMomOf4JustAMomOf4 Registered User Posts: 4,563 Senior Member
    To the best of my knowledge, no one on this forum sits on the admissions board or works in the admissions office at USMA. It is not for us to judge why or why not some folks are offered appointments or prep school while others are not.
    The application is complex and there is far more to it than SAT scores and GPA. First and foremost USMA is looking for OFFICER POTENTIAL. They find that through athletes, leaders and scholars.
    GPA means nothing - it is impossible to compare gpa's of students from different schools.
    USMA looks at academice courses taken, achievement in those courses and class rank - how you perform amongst your peers.

    To set the record straight JPUSMA is NOT being considered for admission to USMA. He is being considered for USMAPS. JPUSMA has a long road ahead of him and a lot of hard work at the prep school.
    He already knows this but if he does not pass the prep school he will not get an appointment.

    JPUSMA - you have nothing to be ashamed of where your resume is concerned. You are admittedly a little weak on the academic side and that will require work. You show both athletics and leadership and those qualities are very important.
    Best of luck to you - keep on working!
  • futbolpianstDadfutbolpianstDad Registered User Posts: 2 New Member
    JP keep up the hard work and determination. I don't really think you are being up front with everyone about the SAT score of 460? If you are at this point in the game you really need to get some tutoring. But with all respect that is very low for your basic junior college let alone WP. You should really get some counseling to make sure WP is a fit for you. Academic challenges at WP is one part and when you add the physical, psychological and hazing to boot the complete package is a task.
  • momoftwinsmomoftwins Registered User Posts: 2,668 Senior Member

    As has been posted here before, USMAPS is designed for the student with great potential who is lacking in either math or verbal skills. Not long ago somebody pointed out that a score below 500 on either section of the SAT is a determining factor. Prep School candidates 'cannot' be deficient in both areas.

    USMAPS is a fabulous opportunity to obtain academic grounding that will prepare you for life and academics at West Point. Also, it has been noted many times that the bonds formed at USMAPS are invaluable during the 4 years at West Point.

    You have a lot of people pulling for you! We'll look forward to hearing that you'll report to USMAPS this summer. Keep up all of your great work!
  • JustAMomOf4JustAMomOf4 Registered User Posts: 4,563 Senior Member
    I don't really think you are being up front with everyone about the SAT score of 460? If you are at this point in the game you really need to get some tutoring. But with all respect that is very low for your basic junior college let alone WP. You should really get some counseling to make sure WP is a fit for you.

    futbolpianstDad - Are you an admissions officer at West Point? If you are not then you are not in the position to judge if West Point is a good fit for any potential candidate. I have known plenty of kids with 1400 SAT's for whom USMA would be a horrible fit.

    JPUSMA! - stated that admissions was requiring him to reach a 500M sat score. That is for Prep school consideration. He will then need to complete Prep school satisfactorily before he steps foot on West Point. Yes he has an uphill climb - but if USMA admissions is supporting him in this journey it is not for us to judge.

    RE: SAT's many bright kids have difficulty with SAT's. They are not intelligence tests. It may surprise you to know that there are many kids at 4 year colleges who have low SAT scores. The availability of tutoring is basically a function of affordabilty - one reason why high SAT's are directly related to family income.
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