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ROTC- non citizen

NAFTANAFTA Registered User Posts: 107 Junior Member
Basically, I want to apply for a 4 year ROTC scholarship, but my mom is getting her citizenship in August 28 and there is no way for me to apply before the December deadline. What do I do, I've been in the US for 9 years and I'm 17 entering my senior year. Can I talk to a human being to make an exception, I'd be losing a big opportunity because my citizenship would come in 2 months late. I've always dreamed of joining the Army, unfortunately, the damn citizenship process meant I couldn't join a service academy, now it's gonna cost me ROTC too. If someone could please give me some advice, it would be very helpful.
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Replies to: ROTC- non citizen

  • mrgreenapplemrgreenapple Registered User Posts: 415 Member
    Well... if its your dream to be in the army then go enlisted since you don't have to be a us citizen, then do green to gold rotc scholarship while you're in.

    one other CRAZYYYYY idea... wait another year. dun dun dunnnnn
  • AnnAnn Registered User Posts: 1,477 Senior Member
    I must be missing something - but if your mom gets her citizenship August 28, why will you miss the December application deadline? If you are a minor (17), don't you automatically get US citizenship when your mother becomes a US citizen?
    http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/English.pdf
  • NAFTANAFTA Registered User Posts: 107 Junior Member
    To the first guy, it's college confidential, so I won't beat around the bush so to speak. My parents went to college in another country, and came to the US, so becoming an enlisted man or waiting a year= half assed failure in their eyes. As to the second guy, no unfortunately your wrong. I can apply for citizenship if my mom is a citizen, I'm not automatically a citizen. Anyway, applying in August means I get my citizenship in December so all I have to do is talk to a USCIS official to rush the process a bit. Basically, God willing it will get fixed and I won't run into a bone-government official(there's plenty of them at your local federal building, I've visited some). Anyhow, thanks for the help.
  • AnnAnn Registered User Posts: 1,477 Senior Member
    In my experience you cannot apply for Naturalization (citizenship) in your own right until you are 18 years old. It is also my experience that if you are a minor, have been living in the US legally for the specified period of time, and one of your parents are naturalized you automatically become a US citizen. As such you are eligible to apply for a "Certificate of Citizenship" to document your citizenship. This document can take up to a year to be processed. However you are eligible to apply for a US passport to verify your status as soon as your mother has her certificate (which she receives at her oath ceremony). This is just my 2 cents - take it for what it is worth. Your attorney will know your circumstances better than I do. If you have a good case you will have better luck speeding up the process by contacting your local Member of Congress than you will harassing the overworked USCIS agents.
  • Doogie311Doogie311 Registered User Posts: 1,723 Senior Member
    you could also go to a civilian college, get ur citizenship and reapply to USMA.

    My bro did a year a villanova and applied to the USNA, which is where he is now ;)

    YAAA GO NAVY ahaha jk jk
  • GEBGEB Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
    NAFTA - How about going to Ft. Monroe, VA and USMA and talking to the Cadet Command and Dean of Admissions, respectively. I'm sure if you explain your situation to them including how your parents would look down on you do not get what you want NOW they will both make an exception, and you can get your pick of a 4-year ROTC scholarship or an appointment to West Point. No U.S. citizen has ever been disappointed (right?) when seeking either of these paths to be an Officer in the U.S. Army, so why should an immigrant be disappointed, even if he does not qualify?

    Just my opinion without beating around the bush so to speak.
  • Doogie311Doogie311 Registered User Posts: 1,723 Senior Member
    there are cadets/midshipman who arent citizens, im not sure how u get in like that tho, but look it up
  • candidatemomcandidatemom Registered User Posts: 539 Member
    GEB
    There are plenty of disappointed candidates who did not receive 4-year ROTC scholarships or appointments to a service academy. Just because you apply for either (or both) does not guarantee success. They are both very highly selective. I highly doubt that demanding acceptance to avoid parental disapproval would be very effective. If that were true, all 12,000 applicants for the class of '09 would have followed suit.

    NAFTA
    If the citizenship process does not progress in a timely fashion, and the suggestions made by Ann are not able to be completed in time, then you must do what all disappointed applicants do--go to plan "B". Attend a civilian school for a year, then apply next summer.

    After all, even if your citizenship status is cleared up in time, there is no guarantee of appointment or ROTC scholarship, and you need to have a viable back-up plan in place anyway. Go back and reread the threads written by many highly qualified candidates (their stats were awesome) who were very disappointed when their dreams were shattered. Going to a civilian school is not the "end of the world".
    CM
  • GEBGEB Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
    My post was meant to be sarcastic in response to the rather unreasonable expectations of NAFTA as he lays them out in prior posts. Of course I know each program is very competitive and many are left in the wake of the processes of both programs seeking to follow other opportunities or their Plan Bs.
  • AnnAnn Registered User Posts: 1,477 Senior Member
    GEB - I was right there with you. If NAFTA were to approach USMA and ROTC officials and explain that he needed to become an officer because his family saw enlisted men and women as "half assed failures", I think he would get great advice.
  • candidatemomcandidatemom Registered User Posts: 539 Member
    Sorry GEB and Ann:
    My apologies. I missed the sarcasm (I did get it on the second read through). I was not very awake this AM.

    I will try harder in the future!

    NAFTA:
    Get a grip. You are not being proactive.

    CM
  • AnnAnn Registered User Posts: 1,477 Senior Member
    Candidatemom - no apology needed from my perspective. Your advice is on target with suggesting a backup plan. As recent threads have shown, even accepted candidates need one.
  • mrgreenapplemrgreenapple Registered User Posts: 415 Member
    my backup plan is to live in a tent next to the campus and pretend im a cadet in the local bars :) who wants to go 50-50 on a 2 man tent with me?!?!
  • Doogie311Doogie311 Registered User Posts: 1,723 Senior Member
    im pretty sure they will kill you...
  • mrgreenapplemrgreenapple Registered User Posts: 415 Member
    maybe... if it wasn't for my SUPERHUMAN powers
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