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***Official Thread for 2017 BSMD applicants***

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  • RoentgenRoentgen Registered User Posts: 1,482 Senior Member
    @What???!!, I don't know about others, but I know UMKC does not ask for a mid-year high school transcript.
  • GoldenRockGoldenRock Registered User Posts: 915 Member
    @what???!! You need to send mid-year report. If student applying for BS in EA/ED or some programs like UMKC don't need. Otherwise, you are expected to send and if I remember few schools like BU, definitely expects.

    Though, my D school semester itself ends only late Jan and report came by 1st week of Feb, we uploaded via common app and sent to various school.
  • fadeinnoutfadeinnout Registered User Posts: 5 New Member
    Hey guys I'm new to the BS/MD process. I've heard that applying to a special program like the BS/MD programs in an university makes them less willing to give out financial aid. Is this true or do the universities treat you like normal undergrads?
  • GoldenRockGoldenRock Registered User Posts: 915 Member
    @fadeinnout There are few posts on this very same topic. See my previous responses either this thread or in 2016 thread. Whether a student applies only to UG or UG/MD program has no bearing on your financial/merit aid decisions.
  • Manu007Manu007 Registered User Posts: 35 Junior Member
    When do you submit ur application to these colleges? By the end of junior year? If yes, then can your senior year scores count?
  • rainyday17rainyday17 Registered User Posts: 14 New Member
    Are the supplemental essays on CommonApp right now for the 2016-2017 year or have they not been updated yet? I made a CommonApp account but I heard that it could be reset. Also, does UMKC have a good BS/MD program? How good is their residency placement? I have heard mixed reviews about this program.
  • ruralerrorruralerror Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    edited July 2016
    I applied to numerous programs, was accepted to a few and chose to attend Northwestern HPME. You can see my stats on the 2016 results thread.

    So I learned BS/MDs existed near the end of junior year and scrambled to get research/shadowing, so my app definitely wasn't as strong as some of yours will be. Also my school is pretty average (on a national scale, not a New Jersey/Silicon Valley scale), so we don't have clubs like NHS, DECA, FBLA and whatnot.

    That being said, it's still more than possible to be a competitive BS/MD applicant. I didn't have someone's example to follow for research or other opportunities, so make the most of your time and email professors or find programs even during the school year if you have to. Network with people for volunteering. CA is strict with HIPAA, so I had to go out of state to extensively shadow, which I did!

    Also, learning how to speak to people helps A LOT. You can have all these crazy awards and club titles and all, but it's meaningless if you can't talk about it. I know my application was very lackluster for this context, and that's why it was hard for me to get past the initial stage of apps, and even the ones I did get were essentially purely based off my writing merit. However, I was always able to actually talk about what I'd done and what I'd learned from what I'd done, which is incredibly vital to a good application.

    If you're on this page, chances are you probably already know how important solid academics, ECs, research, etc. are; the most important thing for you now is to be confident in your writing and speaking abilities. Make sure your essays are sincere and well-written and demonstrate your genuine passion for medicine. Don't give anyone a reason to think you aren't committed to becoming a doctor when you're applying into a program intended only to create doctors.

    Do your homework about the programs you're applying to; don't be generic in your writing but also don't give off the "currently on the university website reading the about sections of various research centers" vibe either. Develop an actual, solid argument why you want to go into that university/program.

    Lastly, keep your head high. You'll almost inevitably see/hear about people more qualified than you are, but that's okay. I have really mediocre stats compared to some who apply to these programs, and while all that stuff is really important, BS/MDs are more effective at getting to the core of the applicant and seeing whether you would truly be a good doctor or not, past all the ridiculous awards and 17 publications and 12 non-profits you've started. It's your obligation to show/tell them why you'd make the greatest physician ever. And to be fair, a lot of colleges didn't want to take the chance with me because I had such little to offer on paper, and that will probably happen to you as well, but it only takes one acceptance to turn everything around. App/Interview season is grueling and you may lose a lot of sleep for various reasons, but it will be worth it. Trust me, you're up for the challenge :)

    PS: PM me for any advice/further info, and best of luck to all you future doctors!!
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  • jessapenjessapen Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    thanks for sharing your experience @ruralerror and congrats! :)
  • lookingood99lookingood99 Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    Hi, I'm entering junior year and I am very interested in these BS/MD courses. I have one more summer left in my high school career before applying for college and I am unsure of how to spend it. I already have some volunteer experience, and I plan on adding more volunteer hours during the school year, but I have no research/internship/shadowing experience. I would like to shadow a doctor, but I live in CA and it's extremely difficult to shadow doctors here. Instead, I have the option to stay with my grandparents in India next summer and shadow multiple doctors there, as I know many doctors there and could really help the poor town they live in. However, I'm unsure if there will be any drawbacks to shadowing a doctor in a different country? Is it looked down upon in any way? Or would it be more beneficial to my application to get a research internship? If I take an internship next summer, I could also go to India to shadow for the two weeks during winter break, which is not much, but at least it's something. So what option do you all think would look best on my apps: shadowing extensively in another country, or internship with little shadowing experience?
    Thanks for the help!
  • hebegebehebegebe Registered User Posts: 1,818 Senior Member
    @ruralerror,

    How can we find you in the 2016 results thread? It shows up that you only have one post, so we can't look you up by name.
  • ruralerrorruralerror Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    @hebegebe it's on the 2016 BSMD results page now
  • GoldenRockGoldenRock Registered User Posts: 915 Member
    @ruralerror Thanks for posting your stats in the 2016 results thread. You have done all the right thing with the given time since you decided to pursue BS/MD. It shows your perseverance to go out of state and get the shadowing and also done the 6 weeks in BU and your passion to help undeserved kids on science lab etc., Similar to you, my D (also from Bay area), decided only at the end of junior year. When she contacted few local docs, as you rightly said, no one agreed to allow her for any shadowing. She also applied to various formal internship program for last summer and did not get anything.
    When you get time, please cut and paste your reflection to the results thread. Or I can do that if it is ok with you. In that way if any future folks see only that thread, they won't miss your reflections which are very useful to plan.
  • ccuser00ccuser00 Registered User Posts: 59 Junior Member
    How are you all picking out which BSMD schools to apply to?
  • roseper137roseper137 Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    I was wondering if you apply to a school's bs/md program but are then rejected from the program, could you still be accepted into the regular undergrad admission. Like let's you apply to Boston and their 7 year medical program, could you be rejected from the medical program and still be accepted into Boston as a regular admission student. Does applying to the bs/md program lower your chances of being accepted into the school as a regular admission student?
  • GoldenRockGoldenRock Registered User Posts: 915 Member
    It is a good but tricky question to get a straight answer. In general it does not matter and many schools UG admission is different from BS/MD program selection. But very few schools after they reject BS/MD, they will ask you if you are still interested in UG (CWRU and/or UofRochester, my memory is already fading). But BU you apply only to the BS/MD program. So you need to call them (phone only) explicitly and inform them to reconsider your app for UG (make a note and reminder). Higher ranked schools, because of the yield game and they think twice to give UG offer if they believe that you are not good for BS/MD for their school but there is a high possibility to get BS/MD in some other place, then they will reject your UG app (for example Northwestern and Wash U).
    So if you are very keen on a specific university for UG and if you feel you are not top notch for their BS/MD program, think twice how you want to approach. In our experience we did not feel it lowered your chances except for NU and WashU.
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