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For those of you already in a guaranteed program...

az1698az1698 1800 replies100 threads Senior Member
I have a questions. I currently have the opportunity to take a class @ my community college (I am in high school).

1) Do you guys know if community college credits transfer to guaranteed med programs?

2) Which one would be more useful, Chem 101 or Bio 101?

My school only offers ap physics so can't take ap versions of those.

For those of you who are past your first year, which one would you say would help you the most? Is it better to have a bio class out or a chem one?

Thanks for all your help.
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  • supersamsupersam 87 replies0 threads Junior Member
    the AP versions of those classes are acually more rigorous than the 101 counterparts. The AP has a stanard test that is administered at the end of the year where as he 101 class has a final exam that is made by the professor and only contains material the professor chose to teach. Those 101 classes are usually just to take up science credits for undergrads.. so they're easier than the classes a pre-med student would find themselves taking later on. So i wouldn't be supised if you were denied credit. Check with the individual schools you're thinking about. At Union a 4 translates to a 3.7 and a 5 to a 4.0 and lets you place out of a class. For others there is simply no credit bc you cant get any more accelerated. At Villanova you can skip ahead a year if you take enough AP's and place out of most of your freshman year classes. Check with your top choice med programs. You're better off just taking the SATIIs and doing extremely well.
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  • amr725amr725 48 replies1 threads Junior Member
    I'm in UMKC's 6 year med program. I can only speak for my school.
    1. Here they do accept credit from community colleges.

    2. Chemistry is going to be more helpful. I do agree w/ supersam. AP is more rigorous than 101 b/c the courses are standardized. AP almost always transfers. Chemistry is the foundation of a lot of things (getting into orgo, understanding rxns in biology), therefore it's best to have a strong foundation in Chemisty. Here at UMKC. They gave only 3 credit hours for AP Bio, but students were awarded 10 credit hours for AP Chem.

    Hope that helps. It also is wise to contact the schools that you are interested and find out their thoughts.
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  • MiamiDAPMiamiDAP 16183 replies1 threads Senior Member
    You will have to take first Bio in college in any pre-med either combined or regular route, even if you had "5" on AP Bio test. However, College Bio is much much harder than AP Bio, while college Chem is easy. So, having more Bio classes in HS will help. This seems to be opposite from amr725 post. That only means that it depends on school. The first semester of Bio in college was so hard that some people have changed their major. Chem was easy even with no AP Chem in HS.
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  • madamebovarymadamebovary 1579 replies61 threads Senior Member
    my advice if possible, take ap bio, chem, and physics C
    definately worth it
    but yes typically they will give you elective credits for your community college courses
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  • lnguye02lnguye02 151 replies24 threads Junior Member
    To all,

    I have one question for my son, freshman in HS, who is intertesting in BA/BS-MD program:

    My son is taking AP Calculus BC in freshman now (he took SAT2 Math IIC with 800 score in 8th. grade), and he wonders whether he should take "Multiple Variable" in Sophmore year or be done with HS Math requirements and will take 2 science classes: AP Bio and Honors Chemistry instead?

    Thanks,
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  • madamebovarymadamebovary 1579 replies61 threads Senior Member
    science classes definately, if he wants to do medicine
    i mean i think he can always go back and do multi during senior year, so it would be fresher when he is at college
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  • FutureDr08FutureDr08 220 replies17 threadsUser Awaiting Email Confirmation Junior Member
    I agree with madamebovary, BS/MD program directors love if you take the most challenging curriculum, but also if they have unique tastes in other classes because they want well-rounded students

    so def. AP BIO, AP CHEM, AP PHYS, if he can handle it junior/senior year, but also take AP electives like psych or foreign language...

    thats just my 2 cents
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  • MiamiDAPMiamiDAP 16183 replies1 threads Senior Member
    Definately science classes. He is already way beyond in math requirement. One AP Calc would be sufficient to get a credit for pre-med. I would recommend statistics in place of any more calc. Or maybe he is done with statistics already. He is not going to engineering as an undergrad major, is he? Engineering would reguire as much math as possible, one year of calc and one year of statistics is enough for other pre-med majors.
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  • lnguye02lnguye02 151 replies24 threads Junior Member
    MiamiDAP,

    1) My son finished Statistics in community college in 8th grade. Will it be transferable to most of the BA/BS-MD schools?
    2) If he wants to go for BioEng Undergrad at UToledo then into BS-MD program, What are all Math and Science requirements?

    Thanks
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  • FutureDr08FutureDr08 220 replies17 threadsUser Awaiting Email Confirmation Junior Member
    InGuye02, look into Toledo's premed programs: there are 2: one is for Bacc/MD and it has 5 seats, while the BioEng program has 10 seats, this year about 25 applied to both I believe and only half get interviews, and then some get accepted

    There is a secondary application that's important with essays and medical experiences required. This is a competitive program with 1-2 interviews.

    Good luck:)
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  • FutureDr08FutureDr08 220 replies17 threadsUser Awaiting Email Confirmation Junior Member
    when I asked the premed advisor about their bs/md program, she said they ended it and they didn't change it online, thats why I wrote the stuff in the first post because now they only have programs for high school seniors...*that's what she told me on email/phone
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  • sports61khsports61kh 933 replies92 threads Senior Member
    wouldn't physics APB be more useful for future bio majors (instead of APC), since they could take alg-based physics in college for premed? of course, this wouldn't work for engineers lol
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  • sports61khsports61kh 933 replies92 threads Senior Member
    ^ (10 chars)
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  • paki786paki786 768 replies94 threads Member
    how about AP ENGLISH? i wud take it if it impacts a lot but...... id rather have a stronger foundation in sciences so i loaded up with two sciences (APCHEM and honors phys) my junior year. And i might do an internship and AP Psych or AP World and AP Gov and AP Econ. Would AP English beat all the AP World, Psych and gov.?
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  • az1698az1698 1800 replies100 threads Senior Member
    Err...why is everyone stealing my thread....so far, I only have like 4 answers..
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  • MiamiDAPMiamiDAP 16183 replies1 threads Senior Member
    Inguye02,
    If your son is going to engineering, the more math he has, the better. I believe, there is no special requirements for Bioeng/MD at UT. It looks like your son is already very comfortable with math. However, this program is accelerated (although it is 4+4). It is accelerated since undergrad portion is coop, which is normally taking 5 years. In a program, they push it a little to complete in 4. I believe that in any engineering math is the most important subject. The more math your son has, the better for him. I personally was very impressed with this program. I highly recommend to go to Engineering information session that they invite you when you are accepted to Engineering college.
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  • SpaceJamSpaceJam 72 replies11 threads Junior Member
    I have a similar question, that pertains to my case.

    I am in my junior yr but because of problems with counselor scheduling, I was not able to take AP chem or AP bio (not because of my grades, it was a counselor thing). I kno this will hurt me when applying to accelerated programs but IDK what to do. I took a credit chem course over the summer, and i want to take the chem II subject test to redeem myself a bit since i dont have any ap sciences b4 senior yr (when i take ap bio).

    Do i still have a shot, considering i have the way above average grades, scores, etc..?

    Also, should I take chem at a community college to help me on the subject test?
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  • GoBroncos00GoBroncos00 43 replies0 threads Junior Member
    all of the better known/more prestigious progs require sat IIs. NU HPME requires it, other progs require a mix of math, bio and chem (u'll have to check urself). ur lack of top level classes will slightly hurt your application, but u can offset this by a great essay and solid medicine related activities. its a total crapshoot neways, so u might as well try and u might just get lucky. the best resource is the current MSAR book. it has all the combined progs listed with data and reqs.
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  • SpaceJamSpaceJam 72 replies11 threads Junior Member
    lol, i take it your not too fond of the program admissions?

    thanks for the advice!
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  • az1698az1698 1800 replies100 threads Senior Member
    Whats the MSAR book
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