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bs/md programs possible or just a fantasy?

stupidestofthesmartstupidestofthesmart 404 replies46 threads Member
edited December 2004 in Multiple Degree Programs
hi, i'm an asian-american female (junior) from MD
please help.. do I even have a chance at any bs/md programs?

SATI - 1420 (on practice)
SATII's - hoping for 700s - won't be taking chem because i suck @ it
AP's- Chem (3- ouch, i know), World Hist (4)
taking 4 ap exams this yr, 4-5 next year
class rank- 4/367
gpa- 4.0 unweighted, 5.5 weighted

ec's: key club, vars badminton, NHS, FHS, nothing spectacular
160 hrs volunteer at local hospital
applying to NIH intern (do i have a chance?)
piano 10 yrs, violin (no awards, anything)
writing class at Johns Hopkins for summer

* what are admittance rates/numbers for case western's med program?
* would i have any chance at it? what about other md/bs programs?
* what are research/medical-related activities i could do? i don't know any programs/internships that're available.. in other words, what could i do to improve my chances for md/bs?

please reply.. thank you thank you thank you!
edited December 2004
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  • papucuttapapucutta 227 replies17 threads Junior Member
    haha well i can first off tell u that the fact ur azn doesn't help (lol since a lot of applicants are....). ur sat i is pretttty good--i would shoot for 1450+ with 1500 being all u need to qualify urself as absolutely safe as far as the top programs go. hmm, u should def hope for 700s on sat iis, and i would recommend taking the chem just b/c programs like northwestern hpme REQUIRE it for admissions. other progs just say "science sat ii," so just make sure u take one and do well. ur rank is good, gpa is AWESOME. ur ec's are kindof crummy in the sense that i don't really see anything of substance except the badminton which is kindof cool. w/e, try to involve urself as much as possible in them and definately shoot for leadership positions--so the adcomms know u did something lol. as far as NIH goes, i got rejected (look for my stats--they're on like the first page of this forum--waaay back), but i don't think it was b/c of any lack of merit or anything--from what i've learned/heard, nih research positions are all about connections....if u have any, USE them. u definately need to volunteer some more though, b/c a lot of programs insist upon seeing "exposure to the medical setting" aka volunteering in the hospital. i would assume that case western is pretty high (i am applying yet i have no idea what the qualifications are--all i know is that it's a good program lol). to be frank, if u applied to programs right now, i doubt u'd get in someplace like case western, but the fact is ur still a junior and have a year to build ur resume. u kindof have the stuff, just add some depth to it by getting realllly involved in everything.
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  • stupidestofthesmartstupidestofthesmart 404 replies46 threads Member
    thanks so much, papucutta, i could hug you :)

    the only problem is the hospital volunteering experience i had was terrible, they had me folding letters and putting them in envelopes for hours at a time and sorting files. i can't seem to find a program where they'll let me intern or do anything directly related to medicine :(

    my dad works at nih as a research technician.. not exactly a high and mighty job so the "connections" thing doesn't really work out, unfortunately.

    thanks again for your reply!
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  • IceMan5043IceMan5043 71 replies1 threads Junior Member
    I have a 1410 SAT I and a 720 Bio. That's where the good stuff ends. I just took the writing and math2c this month and BOMBED it with a 640 and 650 respectively. I am retaking them both in December and I can DEFINITELY bring my writing score up to the mid 700s at least (I was spazzing out during the test and didn't even finish the essay) but math is going to be tough. Anyway, I have A LOT of volunteering experience, around 1066 hours in a hospital and 300 hours or so in a medical office. I have two questions: first, if for some reason my SAT IIs don't improve am I automatically rejected from the accelerated programs and two, would it look kind of iffy if I didn't write about my volunteering experience on the "most valuable stuff" short answer question for the common app? I had something else medically related in mind, but barely. Thanks!

    Edit: Oh yeah, I also took AP Bio last year and got a 5 on the exam if that means anything.
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  • IceMan5043IceMan5043 71 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Bump! Anybody?
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  • papucuttapapucutta 227 replies17 threads Junior Member
    ur sat i is deeecent, as is ur bio, but the unspoken rule for top tier progs is 1450 sat1 and 750 sat2s.......i think that a 700-750 on one or maybe two sat2s could be overlooked if u have high sat1s...for ur case, i would suggest retaking ur sat iis and maaaybe even ur sat1 if u feel u can do better. regarding ur short answer, if u don't write about the hosp stuff then at least make sure u show during an interview that you did get something out of the 1000+ hours u've spent volunteering.......lol.... what is ur gpa (critical) and ur other ec's besides hospital/office volunteer work? leadership positions are good as far as ec's go.
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  • papucuttapapucutta 227 replies17 threads Junior Member
    ice, btw what programs did u have in mind/have you applied to?
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  • IceMan5043IceMan5043 71 replies1 threads Junior Member
    My GPA is 4.375 weighted and I am #2 in my grade of 120 kids. Our school doesn't officially rank, so the guidance counselor probably put top 2%. I don't have a lot of leadership positions in my other ECs. I did co-found our school's science club, and got a recommendation from a doctor, but that's about it. I did a couple of math and science competitions here and there, am a member of about five school clubs, and won a few awards in specific subjects (spanish and history) for academic excellence. Besides that, I attended the NYLF forum and won the 1st place medal in the public health symposium there; I decided to write my short answer about that. I am applying to Drexel, GW, Brown, Union College New York, Rochester, UConn, Stevens in NJ, and TCNJ.
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  • mikespan32mikespan32 145 replies5 threads Junior Member
    ice, I dont know how to say this, but most of those med programs are pretty damm tough. GW and Brown are most definitely extreme reaches, but other ones seem okay. Also, is there anyone from your area/school appyling to med programs? How are their credentials? It makes a big difference.
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  • IceMan5043IceMan5043 71 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Yeah, two others from my tiny school. The valedictorian, 1490 SAT with an 800M 690V (mine was 720M 690V) with 800 Bio, 780 Writing, 800 History, and 720 Math 2C. He's Chinese BTW. Then there is another Indian kid like me ranked about 7 out of 120 I think, and his scores are between mine and the val's. So I guess it's not looking good, right? Oh well, I always have a Yale legacy if this doesn't work out... ;)
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  • mikespan32mikespan32 145 replies5 threads Junior Member
    if the guy between you and the val is indian as well and hes applying to med programs too, then that could be a HUGE problem. do you know where he's applying to and does he have any EC stuff? hopefully for you, it'll be different schools b/c he seems to have an edge...

    BTW>> Wheres the valedictorian applying to?
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  • huhcollegehahahuhcollegehaha 30 replies7 threads Junior Member
    wow Yale legacy huh? Thats pretty cool...although even with your stats getting into Yale would be pretty hard. Yale is just a safety huh? ;)
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  • IceMan5043IceMan5043 71 replies1 threads Junior Member
    All three of us are applying to basically the same programs, so you don't have to be subtle; I know I'm screwed. But about the Yale thing, I heard that roughly 50% of legacies get in at the Ivies. My grandfather and my grandfather's sister both attended Yale graduate school. So I'm taking this as you not even having faith in this now?!
    (I might as well end my life today! :()
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  • mikespan32mikespan32 145 replies5 threads Junior Member
    ice. maybe you shouldnt bother appyling to med programs if you feel so unconfident. if i were in your position, i'd probably try harder to get into yale or maybe BU. You could always go the traditional route to med school...
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  • IceMan5043IceMan5043 71 replies1 threads Junior Member
    LOL. I'm just trying to be realistic. So you honestly don't think I have a good chance at ANY of these programs? I don't think there is much "concentrating" I can do now; all my essays are done and all I have to do is push the Send button. And where did you get BU from? I'm not applying there because they require Chemistry...
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  • mikespan32mikespan32 145 replies5 threads Junior Member
    ^^
    I didnt mean BU in particular, but maybe BU-level schools.

    PS--> If you're ready to send out med program apps, then maybe you shouldnt bother thinking about whether to apply or not. And dont take it personally when i question whether you'll get in or not; i'm too much of a realist
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