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Potential Music Schools?

MusicMan8291MusicMan8291 Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
edited June 2010 in Music Major
I'm an incoming senior from the Indianapolis, Indiana area looking at Midwestern colleges. I would like to stay somewhere close in Indiana, but I'm also considering the city life of Chicago. Right now I would love to major in music, but I would also like a liberal arts degree (maybe in English or communications, something like that). Ideally, I would like to find a college that allows me to double major in music and a liberal arts program. I would like to go somewhere academically reputable but that still has a good music program.

I looked at IU-Bloomington since it's close and obviously has an incredible music school; however, it would be hard to earn a B.M. degree alongside a B.A. degree, and IU-B does not offer a Bachelor of Arts degree in music.

I'm considering:

University of Notre Dame - obviously an outstanding school academically, but I don't know much about its music department.
Loyola University-Chicago - don't know much about it except that I like the campus and city feel.
DePaul University

Any suggestions?
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  • binxbinx Registered User Posts: 4,318 Senior Member
    I'm not sure how she did it exactly, but a good friend of my S's graduated from IU with a degree in oboe and a degree in Korean, and she graduated in 3 years. She started out in oboe performance, but changed part way through. I'd been thinking it was a BA in music, but since they don't offer that, perhaps it was the "bachelor of science and an outside degree." So it is possible to do two fields of study there.
  • MusicMan8291MusicMan8291 Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
    Yes, I'm aware of the B.S.O.F. program at IU, but I was under the impression that while that's a concentration in a certain liberal arts field, it does not garner an actual degree in anything but music and likewise isn't considered a dual major.
  • coloratura_ascoloratura_as Registered User Posts: 169 Junior Member
    Check out Oberlin. The double degree program with the conservatory and the college is very doable.
  • violadadvioladad Registered User Posts: 6,645 Senior Member
    There are a few Notre Dame comments here http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/672196-notre-dame-music-department.html#post1062056252

    DePaul is a very solid choice, much of the faculty drawn from the many Chicago area professional performance ensembles and organizations.

    Realize that a dual pursuit anywhere in conjunction with a BM is a time and credit intensive proposition.
  • binxbinx Registered User Posts: 4,318 Senior Member
    Okay - I just checked her facebook page -- she has listed BA music; BA Eastern Asian Languages and Cultures. All I can think of is that they used to offer it and don't anymore. She graduated in 07. I suppose you could email admissions and ask if there is any way to do it. Maybe it is just something they don't advertise because they prefer performance majors.
  • MusicMan8291MusicMan8291 Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
    Thanks very much for all of your input!
  • VicAriaVicAria Registered User Posts: 295 Junior Member
    What aspect of music -- instrumental or vocal? Performance or education or recording or business? Classical or jazz or contemporary?
  • MusicMan8291MusicMan8291 Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
    I haven't decided between piano performance or vocal performance, but at this point I would guess piano performance.

    binx - I've done some researching and discovered that IU no longer offers a B.A. in music.
  • brahms91brahms91 Registered User Posts: 126 Junior Member
    I myself am going to be a piano performance and engineering major at the university of Iowa. They have a good music program and a pretty good engineering program. It was the one place that I could go that was pretty close to home (Minnesota), had a decent program in both, and wouldn't cost a fortune. I also looked at the university of Wisconsin Madison, but didn't have any piano teachers I would want to study with. I also looked into Cleveland Institute of Music, as they have a good music program and have a partnership with Case Western.

    If you were willing to go as far as Iowa, I would definitely look into that. They have a great piano teacher there, and give out a whole bunch of money (unfortunately they didn't this year because of the economy, but they usually do). I am not sure how good their Liberal Arts program is though.

    It depends how close close is. If you want to stay in-state then I don't know what to say besides IU-Bloomington.

    Do not consider a double major in music and any other field lightly, as it will be very very time consuming.
  • VicAriaVicAria Registered User Posts: 295 Junior Member
    How about Lawrence University in Wisconsin? Solid reputation for both its music conservatory and its academic program. Not too, too far away.
  • WilhelmWilhelm Registered User Posts: 15 New Member
    I was a music student at IUB last year. They do offer the kind of degree you're looking for, its called the bachelor of science in music and an outside field (most people just call it bsof). I think the basic idea is that you have a somewhat abbreviated music curriculum, the courses relevant to your outside field (which is usually in the neighborhood of 25 credits) and then you throw out the extraneous stuff that you would normally get with either major on its own (humanities, freshman experience-type stuff, etc.) Somewhere on the IUB music site there are pdfs that show the suggested progression of classes for the different kinds of bsofs (piano, voice) and where the room for your outside field is, in order to graduate in four years, but I can't seem to track those down at the moment. I'll post a link when I do.

    The offical description of the bsof program is a little way down this page: Undergraduate Degree Programs: Academic Information: IU School of Music

    Edit: Here they are. This is the one for piano: http://music.indiana.edu/undergraduate/pdf/BSOFpiano.pdf
    And here's the one that covers vocal performance: http://music.indiana.edu/undergraduate/pdf/BSOF.pdf
  • MusicMan8291MusicMan8291 Registered User Posts: 28 New Member
    My concern with getting the B.S.O.F. degree at IU is that it is still just a music degree. My whole intention with wanting to study music AND a separate subject is so that I can satisfy my passion for music as well as earn an academic degree so that my options for the future are not limited solely to music. Would a potential employer look at the BSOF degree and say, "This proves that he studied music as well as became proficient in a more academic area" or would the employer say, "He got a music degree and took a few courses in an academic area, but still ONLY earned a music degree"?
  • Mezzo'sMamaMezzo'sMama Forum Champion Music Major Posts: 3,556 Forum Champion
    You are talking with a bunch of parents who have just spent the better part of the past year immersed in the application/audition process which took our kids into some great school and top programs.It was every bit as intense as applying to the most difficult math/science/engineering schools in the country, so please, don't use the words "only, or "just"...a music degree", even in jest!!
    I think I know what you mean though and know that you didn't intend any disrespect. Are you saying that you enjoy music and want to keep it as an important part of your life, but that you really intend upon majoring in another field so that you are reasonably certain that you can support yourself? Would you be happy continuing lessons on piano in college while majoring in something else?
    I have heard that Notre Dame's music dept (especially the vocal dept) has been steadily improving, so that might be a school to look at early in the game. If you are not majoring in music, you should be able to find opportunities to take part in shows or musical events on campus.
    You're young, I know that, and this may be difficult, but could you think about where you want to be in 15 years? Then, tell us what you really want from college; what do you want to do there, what academic subjects really "grab" you, extra-curricular acitivities that you want to take part in... Some of those facts will help tie things together.
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 72,167 Senior Member
    If you plan to double major with music as one of the majors...also plan to be in undergrad school for an extra semester to an extra year. At Oberlin, for example, double majors typically take five years to graduate.
  • stringkeymomstringkeymom Registered User Posts: 457 Member
    If you are willing to go into the Chicago area, Northwestern.

    Keep in mind that Medical Schools actually accept more music majors preferentially even to life sciences majors; that Law Schools will also accept any majors, and that the kind of discipline and focus required in music is generally recognized as a plus.
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