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No Audition for Music Major

cerosnercerosner Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
edited November 2009 in Music Major
hey all. I was wondering if you guys could help me find a decent school where I could major in music but not have to audition. along with that, I might want to consider a career as a music teacher- would I major in education and then minor in music? some schools do have a music education major, but the ones that I've researched require an audition.

GPA: 3.975
SAT: 1890 (Math 690, Reading 570, Writing 630)
SAT II: Lit 570, Math I 630

I know Columbia has what I want, but I highly doubt I'll get in.

any help is greatly appreciated! (:
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Replies to: No Audition for Music Major

  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 63,381 Senior Member
    Unless someone else knows something I do not know...the music education programs I know about are majors...not minors. And in all cases I know of, you have to audition.

    There are college music programs that are BAs and do not require an audition. BUT I do not believe any of those will lead to teacher certification in music education.

    Why don't you want to apply to a school that requires an audition?
  • cerosnercerosner Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    I play the guitar, but I don't think I'm good enough, haha. okay so if, let's say, I wanted to become a music teacher and a school didn't have the music education major, would I just major in education and minor in music?
  • violadadvioladad Registered User Posts: 6,645 Senior Member
    cerosner, welcome.

    I don't mean to be flippant, but if you don't consider yourself "very good", why would you wish to pursue a path that would result in you teaching?

    Last time I checked, there aren't too many schools offering a music ed degree with guitar as the instrument, be they aundition based or not. Not too many public school programs that offer guitar as an instrumental instructional choice. (There are some, but they seem to be in the systems that are typically very arts/music supportive.)

    Virtually any performance or education/pedagogy based program worth its salt will have an audition based component, or at least a sophomore jury based instrumental proficiency component that must be passed in order to continue.

    There are a number of BA programs that can provide a through background in general music, discipline specific skills (voice, general, or instrumental) and position you for a masters in music ed. I would not recommend a general ed degree and a music minor as the primary path to obtain certification to teach music within a k-12 setting.

    Music ed minors are a rare bird, but can be found. Virtually all will require an audition and interview process, but not all major degree coursework is available to minors. Some explanations here http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/558603-what-can-i-do-music-ed-minor.html?highlight=minor

    Look at all your state programs, not just the flagship, and those in surrounding states that may offer reciprocity agreements.
  • Mezzo'sMamaMezzo'sMama Registered User Posts: 3,384 Senior Member
    I'm not even sure one COULD become certified to teach music with a general education degree and a music minor. I know it's not possible in NY state.
    OP, again, I am not intending to be rude, but to teach a particular subject, one should be GOOD at it. First, you are theorizing about something that isn't possible and second, even if it was, you would be doing students a terrible disservice if you are not proficient on an instrument and if you're not even really sure teaching music is what you'd like to do. Forgive me if I err, but that is how I'm reading your post.As has been disussed here ad infinitum, Music Education should not be looked at as as something to "fall back on" if one doesn't want to/can't make it as, a performance major. As a Music Ed major, you still have to have an instrument, or voice, on which to audition and which is considered to be your "primary" instrument. You then have to take instruction on other instruments in other groups (strings, woodwinds, percussion, etc). Do you play anything besides the guitar? Have you had piano instruction? I'm hoping that you are a HS junior, because if you're a senior, this discussion is taking place too late-although I'm sure someone will come up with a school that has a later application date if you have the other stats (such as that instrument) which would make it feasible. Have you talked to your Guidance Counselor? He/she will hate me for sending you in their direction right now as the are smack in the middle of "busy season"! You should also talk with one of your HS's music faculty and do some brainstorming there.
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